EVE General Discussion

This doesnt really work when 5% of players generate ~50% of the monthly ISK.
Consumers dont dictate the prize of PLEX anymore. Investors, speculators and SP farmers do.
For other items this would be ok, but PLEX is essential for some players to play the game, so there should be some special restrictions.

Perfect ! Please send me all you stuff via contract in Jita (exchange with 0 cost) and all your ISK.
Thanks.

They dont consume PLEX, they waste PLEX. Every 500 stack of PLEX that collects dust in the hangar of some space rich nerd is one less active player. Every ~1000 stack of PLEX that is wasted per month by a passive SP farm account is 2 less active players.

If it were up to me, SP farming would be removed and PLEX would have an expiration date of 60 days, so that players cant hoard it.

But CCP obviously prefers to cater to the whales and stuff the game with monetization mechanics.
... and to spend the revenues on VR projects. (Gunjack 1&2, Valkyrie, Spark, ...)

If they buy something from the market, they are a consumer. They are consuming the item from the market in every way it's possible to intelligently consider a market situation. And since the market is not empty of PLEX nobody is missing out, the stacks of PLEX in their cargo are only stopping someone from playing if there are none on market and that's never going to happen. I'll give you that the hoarding of PLEX increases the market price and the cost might be prohibitive to some new players, but that isn't a problem in my opinion since EvE is cheap and you can always just use cash. PLEX is supposed to be a luxury not everyone can afford.

Giving PLEX an expiration date would break more than it would fix, you just need to think about it more.

All companies spend revenue from one project on another, it's normal. Don't see what your point is.

Dunno, i think you're just angry about pricey PLEX and not seeing the bigger picture.

What exactly will it break, apart from few actively speculating "customers", who ruins that game by removing players out of it? players count is back on year 2007 level.




Bigger picture can be found here. Expensive PLEX means less money for CCP Amount of players, who use PLEX to get ISK still remains the same (total PLEX sell orders amount) but they do not need to sell that many PLEXes to get their ISK. When PLEX was 500 milions they needed 1 PLEX for each 500 milion Isk ship. Now they can have 3 such ships for same RL money. So CCP gets 1/3 of money they got before.

People like me, who have RL money, but can't spend them for the on-line game cause of family reasons, will simply switch to alpha state and that means less content, created by me or others. Cause in between job, wife and kids I do not have that much time for PvE to get enough ISK for PLEX and PvP. Do not forget the concurrence like War Thunder or Wargaming, where you have match making and instant combat content for 0 RL money of time for PvE grind invested. There is still no better cheat free, F2P online game, like Eve, but competitors are getting closer...

Over all, with the increase uses of PLEX you'd expect the price to go up. You have more people demanding PLEX. To get more PLEX into the game you need to offer a better price in terms of ISK to those people. At 350 million ISK you are going to get a supply of PLEX that is going to be wildly insufficient to meet the current demands. This is called excess demand--that is, the people who want PLEX at 350 million ISK will far outstrip those willing to supply at that price. The solution is to let the price increase. People willing to buy at 350 million may not be willing at 450, 500, 650. etc. million ISK. And at the higher prices players willing to trade RL money for ISK will buy PLEX and enter the market as sellers.

Further, PLEX is probably more of a luxury good. That means that the income elasticity of PLEX is greater than 1. This means that as a players income goes up he'll be willing to allocate a larger share of his income to PLEX. That is suppose the income elasticity is 1.5 and my income (in game) has gone up 50%, that implies my demand for PLEX went up 62.5%--i.e. more than the increase than my income. One reason for this is that PLEX prices tend to go up over time. So if you have quite a bit of liquid ISK lying around then putting it into PLEX is not a terrible idea.

Funny how every Goon is fiercly defending high PLEX prices.
Are you scared that CCP might intervene and the trillions you invested in PLEX might lose value?

Damn it feels good to be an adult with a job.

I don't know why you bother. Americans can barely find their own country on a map let alone that nebulous "everywhere else" that they have no clue about.

Mr Epeen

What would it break? How about the entire game?

Imagine plex had even a 6 month expiration. Obviously, the players with hundreds of thousands of plex have more than they could possibly use. so they dump it on the market.

The price crashes.

Everyone buys the plex they need to sub up for the next 6+ months, the majority sits on the market until it expires.

Going forward, for the next 6 months, plex are utterly meaningless - the same people who normally fund their ingame activities with plex end up with zero income, because the surplus is utterly excessive and the demand is barely above zero.

Going forward from there, plex becomes almost trivial to buy, as demand will remain far lower than it is now, and the surplus supply will balance itself to the fact that almost nobody's buying it.

Meanwhile this whole time, nobody's buying plex from CCP, nobody's paying a subscription to CCP. What is CCP supposed to do for income?