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RIP the last few months of my training queue.... What a waste of time. First Rorquals.. now this.

Let's be honest. The only way you're getting 260m ticks, is if you get a dread spawn and an escalation. That, or you're multiboxing revenants (and probably using macros). Most people get between 60-100mil, and that's with a supercarrier.

I quit eve after one of the dozen nerfs in the last few months after playing since Beta. Someone linked this nerf to discord, which caused me to chuckle and chime in.

For you people complaining about nerfs, it's really quite simple.

"Isk faucets" need to go away so you buy more plex since this game hasn't had a new player base in many years. (free to play influx is laughable, as any game on such a transition is well known to be on it's last legs) As such, it's not going to be unusual in the coming months to continue to see many more nerfs for players who have invested billions of isk and years of time into SP and ships, in order to reduce the total number of available isk/SP. Since injectors implementation, these nerfs cause a direct loss of SP as people rip now obsolete skills (now Carriers, before, rorquals, before mining barges/hulks when rorquals were rebalanced, leadership skills, etc) at a great loss. As new injectors give far less SP than the SP ripped, this is net profit for CCP who needs an increased revenue stream.

I rip 500k SP and get 150k back in return or whatever the calculation works out to be. 350k SP removed from the game so I need to buy 3 additional injectors to make back my lost SP.


I'm going to run on the assumption that this moronic CCP trend will continue and continue to train useless skills as they suddenly become the only viable option for gameplay (such as salvaging) in the future. And since I FOOLISHLY (really, shame on me) subbed for the remainder of the year, near the end of said sub, I'll login and take a peak around at the new 'enhanced' CCP velator with mining lasers only gameplay style. "for the economy" of course since suddenly CCP really cares about the "player driven economy" which is actually now "ccp nerf driven".


All this said, I find CCP's strategy highly curious for a game that attracts zero new customers. (new accounts are redundant as people increase scale on existing accounts in the world's most multibox able game). Screw remaining cash cow customers who have given years of solid support in preference for.... I dunno what... bankruptcy?

To CCP devs/marketing team, at this point, have you guys just given up on this game? -- This is an honest question (not trolling, bruh) and I wonder what the honest answer is (or if such a thing were realistic to expect)


And finally, somewhat comically, I find it hilarious that fozzy didn't send out this nerf advice. I guess he/she/other finally got tired of being crapped on by the general population for announcing many dozens of other bad business moves.

CCP isn't going bankrupt, quite the opposite, they had record year in 2016. 30million USD capital they raised for VR was all paid back and then some, and that only from selling only 1 (rather unremarkable) VR pew pew game. Guess where their future is.

So. This wont correct this isk faucet. You have also potentially created a worse loop. Example. As carriers were the appex pve ship in null...it also created a hunting pool for people like me... Spending billions to effectively hunt these. The extractors....the skills... The plex purchased in the likes of carriers...was.. Immense. Now, less carriers fielded means less carriers will die. Less carriers die, less plex purchased for their replacement. Less carriers in the hunting pool, less people like me spending billions on hunting them. And no one is going to extractor buff their account for carriers that deal similar dps to rattlesnakes dualboxed. ....And you just sent everyone back to incursions. Lets be honest CCP. The player base you have now is all you're going to get. Stop beta testing half assed rebalncing with them.

It's also worth mentioning that this is going to adversely affect anyone that owns a (super)carrier, as their vessels will drop in value. To already see once 20 billion ISK ships already being sold for 15 billion is just plain pathetic. It's almost downright theft.

I'm surprised by the reason for the changes. It sounds like they were based on income generated. Was this the case? It's very unusual.

Nerfs happen, just like buffs, and what surprises me about this change is the apparent reason for the change. A change isn't something you can call objectively good or bad, and what matters more is the motivation or intent. Boiled down to its simplest terms, it is perceived as simply wanting players to farm less gold.

It shouldn't be difficult to understand why that would maybe upset people. There are several better reasons for this type of thing.

Ships and mechanics often see nerfs after their introduction. I suspect it is to generate interest in accumulating the SP initially and then pulling things back. It's a well-known pattern in EVE. This could explain the fighter changes somewhat, where you want players to skill into the new capital drone skills and want to put another carrot in front of them.

Balance changes are also commonly based on the ship types used, compared to one another. It's not the best method even though it's common in game balance and game design in general. That type of reasoning would mean buffing less used ships to make them more viable for PVE. Perhaps. Even in this scenario, it could explain fighter damage reduction with the goal of avoiding power creep while seeking a balance in usage statistics.

I've always wanted to see changes based on far less tangible reasons, like fleet comp synergy that wouldn't show up in stats. With this goal it would be understandable to say Supers as solo PVE boats does not align with your vision of cooperative gameplay. You could go on to say Supers should be used for PVP and make changes to distance them from PVE only. Just between us, don't tell anyone, but I would agree with this assessment the most, that a solo Super in an anomaly is distorted gameplay that was last common perhaps five years ago.

Everyone knows the saying about stats, right? That there are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Use stats and base decisions on them, but "you're farming too much gold" is very self-centered and is a company-facing decision. The only failure on the player base's behalf is maybe allowing the farming to happen, but even then you'd be wishing we attack each other more. In this case that's something you (the game developer) wants.

I also suggest being more careful about the reasons given for changes, at least publicly. Do what you want but make sure someone massages the publicity with explanations based on player need. Do what you need to do but tell the players what they need to hear.

Why you doing that? Can't believe it. stupid change. You can nerf the supers,why nerf the carrier,why the light fighter? 20%reduction? Still can't believe, well, It's time to leave EVE.
STUPID.

Buff NPCs then. I have been training fighters for the last 4 months. Why the hell are you ruining a PVP ship to make your bottom line better? Do your jobs as creative game innovators and not EA Game flunkies... oh wait.

Because that will nerf EVERYONE. And the problem is only a small subset of that. So CCP are actually doing their jobs exactly as they should and not punishing the non carrier pilots for carriers being out of balance.
It's like all that isk in your wallets has removed your ability to read.