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That is a tempting idea... Man, I know folks who let their 5( or is it 6?) accs run their ISKtars almost 24/7. Those make money with almost zero effort I can only dream of in my carrier. And in my carrier I needa be constantly looking and clicking. No YT/YP and just checking the wallet every 20 minutes...

Is there anything in the game that you do not want to nerf now

i have a rorqual and a pve carrier

so i can make isk for pvp


you have nerfed both of these income sources with the Pirate battleship nerf as well

getting close to packing this game in


but i might just extract all my toons but 1 and just play the game with him.


ccp ruining the game they built
this is not suppose to be an even playing field if someone joins the games today they are screwed.


ccpig

Please reconsider the changes you are bring to fighters.

In the post you say that there is too much isk being brought into the system. I AGREE on that point. A 5-8% reduction on bounties would work on solving several issues. The VNI and the Ishtar would get nerfed while toning back capital and supercapital ratting. In my eyes for pve the vni is the biggest offender. Its cheap. Its afkable. Its the perfect storm for pve and abuses decade old npc AI. If I am in a fitted carrier that costs 21x what I would need to buy a solid VNI for slightly better ticks whats even the point of ratting in a carrier? It would be alot more effective for me to multibox a few VNIs. And that sounds like a money grab.

I can only rat in a carrier for so long before going insane. Do you know how long I can rat in a VNI? ALL DAY. Why should people not even bothering to play the game make more isk, easier than a carrier does.

I challenge every employ that is trying to roll-out this change to rat a couple billion isk in a carrier with their sanity intact.

Now I am not saying that I expect linear rewards with spending more isk. But players should be rewarded for accually playing the game unlike the Ishtar VNI spam in every decent true-sec system there is.

Now I, like you employs at CCP am passionate about this game. But as time goes on this year its getting harder and harder not just devolving into insults as I see the changes you have been making.

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I don't see how this helps at all. Already my nidhoggur can be de-fanged by lots of small ships, or even a T1 frig can jam out my DPS. Last pvp nidhoggur I had died gloriously in battle, but I was able to take out a few ships in the process, and after it died I was still satisfied because it was a "GOOD FIGHT". That is content right there. Both sides entered battle, some ships survived, some died on each side. If my carrier loses this dps gonna be hard reason to field that much isk in pvp, and that means less content for me and other people.

Fix the real issue, and its not with fighter DPS that's for damn sure.

Also, as it stands right now, if there are just 2 guardians on field, a solo carrier is unable to break the tank. How are Light fighters OP in PvP again? Can't even break 1 guardian repping another without help.

what i dont get is all the people saying theyre gonna extract and quit
you realise by extracting you just encourage them
and give them more money lol
if you wanna quit go for it but dont extract lol

So, decided to do some more math. Average damage of most combat carrier fits

Chimera - averages 1700 with almost max skills
Thanny - 1800
Archon - 1500
Nid - 1500

so, for PVP, archons and nids could easily expect to see just above 1k dps average, while chimmy's and thannies should expect a drop to around 1.3k damage.

Just sad.

And here I though it was supposed to be dangerous and all that...

Totally agreed . On a separate note i dont know how having too much isk is a problem for an economy. Lots of ISK flow means pilots are able to buy Plex, at the new more expensive rate lets be honest CCP, and also to invest money in shiny ships with shiny fittings because they can. This means pilots are buying items from the market at a much higher rate than they would if simply grinding for Plex which means production increases to meet demand. How cutting the ISK in a free flowning market helps it just makes no sense. It doesn't work, its agaisnt all the core principles of a healthy, functioning economy. I personally think someone in CCP has been talking to the Mittani and employing some Art of War tactics to destbilize smaller alliances. Stop pissing about with your game CCP and stop being so f**king greedy. You have now closed all your other games down to focus on Eve because you couldn't make them work. Dont **** up your one last pot of gold and if you get a little less greedy, drop your Plex real life prices you might end up making more money as more people rush to buy cheaper plex....and stop nerfing peoples money making. Going to kill carrier ratting altoegtheer at this rate. Making ISK keeps people playing and enjoying your game.

My beloved T3Cs? I don't fly them. I do escalations in my Machariel unless it's blood raider space then i use a Vargur.

Dude, you need to chill. you are acting like the world is ending lol.

I have a much better solution.... NERF the devs. you touching a nerve with people income. Come on CCP. use common sense