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rorqual nerf
carrıers nerf
süpers nerf
all shıps nerf
all moduls nerf
everythıng nerf

result : eve onlıne ıs dead

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ı spend real Money for my game tıme ı dont need ısk for plex but ın last 1 years all chance ıs bullshet and thıs topıc ıs suck. nerf nerf nerf.... enough... enough ccp... dont touch thıs game If you want to do something add to new shıp modül system npc type etc... read to forum page. lısten to player.. not your self

The concern isn't that too few players are getting too much ISK, it's that too much new ISK is being added to the economy and the small group of players are an easier target than larger groups. Ratting makes new ISK out of thin air and is the largest ISK faucet; trading takes ISK out of the game in the form of tax and NPC broker fees and is the largest ISK sink. Why would they nerf the people doing the most to fight the problem? Also any kind of nerf to trading will hurt small traders exponentially more than the top traders who control whole markets and don't have to compete as much. If anything it will help the big traders by making it harder for anyone else to approach a level where they could compete.

CCP does and does not care about the economy in this game and the employees, players, and I don't know how to fix it. They know we as players want this economy to be fixed in game by being able to plex our accounts inside the game, so they don't care about the economy and this problem. They know players can make, generate, and take isk in the game, so we can play this game for free, and they will care about the economy and this problem. The story goes like that and it will not change. They haven't been doing the best and that is ok every company makes a mistake here and there.



What ccp is trying to do is make players and I generating isk through buying more of their plex while their point of view and opinion is that nothing we do inside this game will and should be enough to get our ships back, so we can have an incentive to sell our plex in game to cover our ship losses and that this will solve all our problems and they will compound the problem further by making us pay for our yearly subscription. This means they will use plex as their little extra asset to get more money out of the game and This means they will continue in the future to nerf ships like the vexor navy issue, Ishtars, carriers, and rorquals because they are prime targets for making isk in the game right now and soon it will be be DED sites and so on....


CCP you want to nerf carriers by 100 percent and then stop the nerfs half way when you get complaints. No you put that damage back the way it was originally or you stick with your changes all the way through, so we know who's side you are really on. Are you on the customers complaining side or are you on your own side?



CCP stop this! CCP don't do it! And CCP listen to your customers and the people on these forums

Thank you,

Freeman Kurt

I made a few posts about having empire space try to expand into nullsec at the corps' and alliances' expense, it'd create a minimum of activity and let CCP take a more active hand in breaking down calcified territory that fails to move content. That might also help clean out the excess citadels, having NPC cleaners roving through, but that'd need some careful work- then again, the worst they could do in retaliation is siege the markets until concord and random militias roving through bleeds them dry. It'd be a **** move and would put the final nail in the coffin of "end-game content", but I dunno, it might be good for the game, I can't say.

I'm not sure you understand what "nulsec" is and how it works (or doesn't, as the case may be).
How would making nulsec safer by turning it into empire space create activity? Yes the carebear factor (the single largest group in the game) would have somewhere new to run missions without risk (aside from CODE which is really no risk if you're smart).

What nulsec needs (what the game needs) is more content and less interference from Devs - Manipulating Plex and letting prices run wild so CCP can attempt to make more money out of a limited number of players. Sov mechanics that would be better suited to a game called clowns and fairies, where magic wands and ECM is the key to "winning" a system. Nerfs to everything that is used by those who do make an effort to go out looking for fights. Nerfs to income from carriers because 1% of 1% of players were making too much isk. Nerfs to Rorquals because ONE region (owned by Goons) mines more ore than the rest of TQ combined).

These things aren't "balanced" in any way - CCP Employees created these problems (and were warned about most of it before they were released) and are now punishing those who aren't part of the problem (smaller groups and individuals) and not "fixing" anything.
Those who rat in Supers are still making dank isk while those who carrier rat are now better off running a couple of AfkTars. As for the Nerf to fighters, it worked wonderfully - Smaller groups don't field carriers in PVP now because the large groups just bring more to make up for the lower damage. Devs have gone out of their way to reintroduce N+1 on an even larger scale than it ever has been before.
The guy who only owns and runs one rorqual with a couple of exhumers is making a lot less per hour, while those in Delve (the second highest region for mining is also Goons according to a Dev graph) with 40 or 50 or more Rorquals are still raking in dank isk and out mining everyone else on TQ combined. And they do it in relative safety due to sov mechanics and isolation (Delve is a **** place to get to with fiirepower enough to take out a fleet of rorquals) and even if you do manage to kill half of some guys fleet, he has replaced them by the next day and is back out there..
A fix for one man fleets of Rorquals is quite simple - Limit the "Mine Repeatedly" to 5 minutes at a time - This would force Rorquals to be actively managed, I'm not sure many would want to alt tab through 40 or 50 characters every 5 minutes to reactivate drones. At the moment you need to check your Rorquals about every 30 minutes, making it too easy for them to be multi boxed.

I'm not going to get into Citadel mechanics, I think everyone who has ever interacted with one knows how broken they are.

Mining does no such thing.

It makes raw materials (ore,ice,gas) out of thin air which is a similar but entirely different faucet. The natural sink for mining's output is getting stuff blown up which this game is (supposedly) very good at.

ISK's faucets are completely overwhelming its sinks and the only metric out of equilibrium is bounty payouts.

And what happens to them when in a fight? How does the Sensor array tell the difference between fighting NPC's and other players? OR is the thought that Carriers should be stationary and just die.
Remember the Network Sensor array give no bonuses to anything other than lock speed and targets locked, where as Bastion, Siege and Triage all give tank bonuses.
Silly suggestions are just silly.

Yeah, hi, I have a question.

First, there are some things you seem to be unaware of.

A: For you to be able to buy PLEX with ISK, someone else has to be willing to buy PLEX with RL money and sell them.
B: The amount of ISK entering the game has steadily been on the rise.
C: The consumer price index has traditionally tended to decrease or, at least, failed to rise as quickly as the money supply.

The net effect of B+C is that everyone not only has more money, but the "spending power" of that money (or the relative value of money-earning activity) has grown relative to the cost of in-game goods.


So my question is: If this situation is allowed to progress to the point that everyone has more than enough money to fund their in-game activity, who's going to sell you the affordable PLEX you seem to believe you're entitled to?

I would like to suggest the following ideas with regard to addressing game balance issues:

1. Never nerf ships or modules or skills. By reducing the capabilities of ships and modules, you are purposefully devaluing things that players have either worked hard for in-game, or paid real money for, or both. Nerfing, by its nature, has caused a lot of player heartache and animosity toward CCP. No nerfs also reflects the real world better, which is a plus in Eve. (If I buy an expensive drilling ship in the real world, all kinds of problems might turn up with regard to the sites I can mine or how much I can sell my ore for, but the ship itself doesn't change).

2. Address serious game balance issues in more creative ways. If capitals are earning "too much" isk, then consider things like making the sites harder when a capital is involved, as in w-space. Or maybe sites respawn at increasingly slower rates. Or maybe Concord decides to pay bounties on a per-character sliding scale of some kind. Similarly, for mining, perhaps new mining anoms respawn more slowly after they're mined-out. Or mining anoms could have increasingly difficult NPCs when Rorqs are on-field -- or there could be an entirely new mechanic that more accurately reflects the fact the limited nature of resources.

do u realise there are players multiboxing (if you can call afk ratting multiboxing) 10-20 vni/ishtars. this 1 dimensional little calculation you have come up with to illustrate your point doesnt really take that into account. you cannot afk 10 supers. of course this does not bother you tho because you are getting 10-20 subscriptions out of it, while actual gameplay is of no interest to you whatsoever as you do not actually play, and neither do any of the csm, unless you call logging in every two weeks to spout some bullsh*t from inside of station playing.