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Rusell
HSM Regulators
#1 - 2017-06-04 08:40:13 UTC
Crime and no punishment:

1. According to game mechanism and responsible ones rules, CONCORD intervention is absurd, experienced gankers will always get what they want using cheap ships which make profitable the action of ganking, CONCORD even do not punish gankers, there are many other rational ways to punish them but game responsible ones are not interested in adding them to the game.

2. Human being nature is not good, do not expect anything from anybody in this game do not expect any rational behaivor or common sense to justify your lose after a gank.

3. Many people will always do whatever is necessary to satisfy their selfish nature, no matter the consequences.

4. There's no excuse for ganking in high sec just the reality, reality means that high sec is moving billions openly and most gankers want "a piece of the Cake" even if it means stepping your head with no remorse, no behavior rules, inventing absurd rules.

5. Never answer to gankers when you are ganked, you are not going to get anything, they will troll you and responsible ones are allowing trolling.

6. Stopping ganking depends on people willing and if they want to make an effort, at the moment is not possible, nobody is getting profit stopping gankers.

7. There are systems and alliances that gankers and ganking movement never gank, so ganking codes are not the same for everybody, gankers know who to abuse of and who not to abuse of main targets will be always new players or small corporations.

8. Paying an extortion is absurd you will be ganked again as fast as they can gank you.

9. Do not expect to enjoy this game as you want in many cases enjoy a sandbox following your way and rules.

10. Never follow any rule of conduct, follow yours and remember game is opened to harassments.

11. Game is designed for being "a ganking haven" among many other things, gankers are not considered besiegers even if they are really.

12. Gankers will always push and exploit the game till "the edges of the legality" to get what they want.

13. There's no space for everybody in this game so this game is not for everybody.

14. This game is not only pvp, even 99% of your experience wont be in pvp, there are many aspects like trade, production, resear... that make pvp possible and besiegers will never recognize.

15 Gankers will always use the sentece "this is a pvp game" to harass you and invite you to leave the game, despite PvP aspects are extremely dependant of PvE ones.

16. If you want to see some justice in this game unfortunately you have arrived late and there wont be any right moment anymore to do justice and punishment for crimes.

17. True anti-gankers we will still against gankers as far as we can and remember as far that we are harassed calling us "Carebears" they are "RatKids"
gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2017-06-04 08:44:01 UTC
Rusell wrote:

I got ganked /crying


I thought i'd leave you a constructive reply but instead I'll just enjoy the tears.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2017-06-04 09:02:04 UTC
Wow.
So much salt in C&P lately.
We're gonna need MOAR POPCORN!

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#4 - 2017-06-04 09:12:29 UTC
10. Never follow any rule of conduct, follow yours and remember game is opened to harassments.

No. CCP's EULA and TOS need to be followed and they clearly state harassment is not ok. Player made Codes of Conduct (such as the 3 Laws of CnP) don't 'NEED' to be followed but expect player enforced consequences for not following player made 'rules'

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Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#5 - 2017-06-04 10:00:30 UTC
More code tears....

Came expecting something new leaving disappointed.

Anti-code thread number 158... I believe

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Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#6 - 2017-06-04 10:05:07 UTC
Why are you using the phrase "responsible ones" for CCP? Among your many annoying writing syntax choices, I'm most curious why you chose not to just go with simply "CCP".

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#7 - 2017-06-04 10:25:45 UTC
We need to start taxing salt producers...

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Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2017-06-04 11:02:46 UTC
In the off chance thus isn't just a troll...

1. CONCORD destroy gankers' ships. In addition gankers lose sec status, face a kill right and cannot claim insurance payouts for their I'll deeds.

2. Ganks are always justified. "I did it for the money", " I did it for the lulz", "I did it for revenge" and "I did it for a cause" are pretty much all the validation you'll see.

3. Everyone serves their selfish nature. The dumb ones ignore the consequences.

4. Yup, in this game, you need to protect your stuff, lest someone take it from you.

5. Gankers can be pretty helpful people. They pretty much always know exactly what you need to do to render them harmless.

6. There's no profit in stopping gankers because there's no need to. It's much easier to protect yourself from gankers than it is to pay someone to stop them for you.

7. Greedy, lazy and stupid players die to ganks. That's all.

8. So follow the code. It's a document that literally translates to "Do these things and we can't kill you".

9. Play as you want, don't expect guaranteed success.

10. Harassment is a ToS violation. ALWAYS follow CCP's rules, but feel free to ignore player imposed rules at your own peril.

11. Game is designed to be a sandbox.

12. As does everyone else.

13. This game is not for everybody.

14. This game is not only pvp, even 99% of your experience wont be in pvp, there are many aspects like trade, production, resear... that make pvp possible and besiegers will never recognize. <- True.

15. The viability of PvE activity is extremely dependent on PvP activity. One cannot prosper in this game without the other. You need to accept that both forms of game play exist.

16. Crimes are always punished.

17. You're not a carebear for fighting gankers. You're a carebear because you don't like PvP happens in a PvP game.

"Playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy." -Jonah Gravenstein
Unconsentual Friend
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2017-06-04 11:07:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Unconsentual Friend
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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2017-06-04 12:30:37 UTC
Rusell wrote:
Crime and no punishment:

1. According to game mechanism and responsible ones rules, CONCORD intervention is absurd, experienced gankers will always get what they want using cheap ships which make profitable the action of ganking, CONCORD even do not punish gankers, there are many other rational ways to punish them but game responsible ones are not interested in adding them to the game.

2. Human being nature is not good, do not expect anything from anybody in this game do not expect any rational behaivor or common sense to justify your lose after a gank.

3. Many people will always do whatever is necessary to satisfy their selfish nature, no matter the consequences.

4. There's no excuse for ganking in high sec just the reality, reality means that high sec is moving billions openly and most gankers want "a piece of the Cake" even if it means stepping your head with no remorse, no behavior rules, inventing absurd rules.

5. Never answer to gankers when you are ganked, you are not going to get anything, they will troll you and responsible ones are allowing trolling.

6. Stopping ganking depends on people willing and if they want to make an effort, at the moment is not possible, nobody is getting profit stopping gankers.

7. There are systems and alliances that gankers and ganking movement never gank, so ganking codes are not the same for everybody, gankers know who to abuse of and who not to abuse of main targets will be always new players or small corporations.

8. Paying an extortion is absurd you will be ganked again as fast as they can gank you.

9. Do not expect to enjoy this game as you want in many cases enjoy a sandbox following your way and rules.

10. Never follow any rule of conduct, follow yours and remember game is opened to harassments.

11. Game is designed for being "a ganking haven" among many other things, gankers are not considered besiegers even if they are really.

12. Gankers will always push and exploit the game till "the edges of the legality" to get what they want.

13. There's no space for everybody in this game so this game is not for everybody.

14. This game is not only pvp, even 99% of your experience wont be in pvp, there are many aspects like trade, production, resear... that make pvp possible and besiegers will never recognize.

15 Gankers will always use the sentece "this is a pvp game" to harass you and invite you to leave the game, despite PvP aspects are extremely dependant of PvE ones.

16. If you want to see some justice in this game unfortunately you have arrived late and there wont be any right moment anymore to do justice and punishment for crimes.

17. True anti-gankers we will still against gankers as far as we can and remember as far that we are harassed calling us "Carebears" they are "RatKids"



Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Jagd Wilde
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2017-06-04 15:24:35 UTC
Rusell wrote:

4. There's no excuse for ganking in high sec just the reality, reality means that high sec is moving billions openly and most gankers want "a piece of the Cake" even if it means stepping your head with no remorse, no behavior rules, inventing absurd rules.



It's 'pie'.

Cake is what you get for being a part of an effort. Cake says 'I was there'.

Pie is the sweet filling of an overloaded autopiloting frieghter, an officer fit barge, or a slow warping pod.

leave hisec and you too could learn how to play EVE,

Every alt I own has a red safety, this has brought my friends much laughter.
Jagd Wilde
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2017-06-04 15:35:48 UTC
https://zkillboard.com/kill/61416595/

It all makes sense now.

Every alt I own has a red safety, this has brought my friends much laughter.
Super Perforator
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#13 - 2017-06-04 16:23:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Super Perforator
Jagd Wilde wrote:
https://zkillboard.com/kill/61416595/

It all makes sense now.


If anyone wants more detailed info:

http://www.minerbumping.com/2017/04/fallen-idol-part-1.html

http://www.minerbumping.com/2017/04/fallen-idol-part-2.html

http://www.minerbumping.com/2017/04/fallen-idol-part-3.html

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5610165#post5610165

Praise James!
Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2017-06-04 16:25:57 UTC
Jagd Wilde wrote:
It all makes sense now.
It takes a special kind of... dedication to use your hauler character to spread AG propaganda.

Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.
Super Perforator
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#15 - 2017-06-04 16:27:59 UTC
Saeger1737 wrote:
More code tears....

Came expecting something new leaving disappointed.

Anti-code thread number 158... I believe


Although there was no CODE. on that freighter kill... Carebears is funny!

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5610165#post5610165

Praise James!
Black Pedro
Mine.
#16 - 2017-06-04 16:55:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Black Pedro
Rusell wrote:
Crime and no punishment:

1. According to game mechanism and responsible ones rules, CONCORD intervention is absurd, experienced gankers will always get what they want using cheap ships which make profitable the action of ganking, CONCORD even do not punish gankers, there are many other rational ways to punish them but game responsible ones are not interested in adding them to the game.

2. Human being nature is not good, do not expect anything from anybody in this game do not expect any rational behaivor or common sense to justify your lose after a gank.

3. Many people will always do whatever is necessary to satisfy their selfish nature, no matter the consequences.

4. There's no excuse for ganking in high sec just the reality, reality means that high sec is moving billions openly and most gankers want "a piece of the Cake" even if it means stepping your head with no remorse, no behavior rules, inventing absurd rules.

5. Never answer to gankers when you are ganked, you are not going to get anything, they will troll you and responsible ones are allowing trolling.

6. Stopping ganking depends on people willing and if they want to make an effort, at the moment is not possible, nobody is getting profit stopping gankers.

7. There are systems and alliances that gankers and ganking movement never gank, so ganking codes are not the same for everybody, gankers know who to abuse of and who not to abuse of main targets will be always new players or small corporations.

8. Paying an extortion is absurd you will be ganked again as fast as they can gank you.

9. Do not expect to enjoy this game as you want in many cases enjoy a sandbox following your way and rules.

10. Never follow any rule of conduct, follow yours and remember game is opened to harassments.

11. Game is designed for being "a ganking haven" among many other things, gankers are not considered besiegers even if they are really.

12. Gankers will always push and exploit the game till "the edges of the legality" to get what they want.

13. There's no space for everybody in this game so this game is not for everybody.

14. This game is not only pvp, even 99% of your experience wont be in pvp, there are many aspects like trade, production, resear... that make pvp possible and besiegers will never recognize.

15 Gankers will always use the sentece "this is a pvp game" to harass you and invite you to leave the game, despite PvP aspects are extremely dependant of PvE ones.

16. If you want to see some justice in this game unfortunately you have arrived late and there wont be any right moment anymore to do justice and punishment for crimes.

17. True anti-gankers we will still against gankers as far as we can and remember as far that we are harassed calling us "Carebears" they are "RatKids"


Wow. The game you describe sounds awesome! Almost like a PvP sandbox game where you are in direct competition with the other players to gather resources and power. A real free-for-all where players can battle it out in a virtual world for dominance and, ultimately victory. A game where creativity and understanding of the game mechanics is rewarded, and laziness, and leaving your cheese out in the wind, is punished.

Sign me up!

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#17 - 2017-06-04 17:05:46 UTC
Good god there's some really nasty people posting on minerbumping these days, comparing ganking to the holocaust of WWII, making fun of suicides etc...

@The OP, you did something dumb, stop blaming others for your misfortune and take responsibility for your own greed and stupidity.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#18 - 2017-06-04 17:14:50 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Good god there's some really nasty people posting on minerbumping these days, comparing ganking to the holocaust of WWII, making fun of suicides etc...

@The OP, you did something dumb, stop blaming others for your misfortune and take responsibility for your own greed and stupidity.




Come on Jonah, I would bet a paycheck that half of those comments on that website are "Rage-Alts" to keep that Gud Drama flowing. Which is not to say truly nasty folks aren't featured heavily there.


Just that websites whose primary, secondary, and tertiary missions revolve around drama are definitely not above generating some in-house, if it isn't being presented naturally.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#19 - 2017-06-04 17:20:32 UTC
Clockwork Robot wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Good god there's some really nasty people posting on minerbumping these days, comparing ganking to the holocaust of WWII, making fun of suicides etc...

@The OP, you did something dumb, stop blaming others for your misfortune and take responsibility for your own greed and stupidity.




Come on Jonah, I would bet a paycheck that half of those comments on that website are "Rage-Alts" to keep that Gud Drama flowing. Which is not to say truly nasty folks aren't featured heavily there.


Just that websites whose primary, secondary, and tertiary missions revolve around drama are definitely not above generating some in-house, if it isn't being presented naturally.
Oh I agree, most of the drama is almost certainly people playing both sides by shitposting; it's still nasty though.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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#20 - 2017-06-04 17:26:57 UTC
Rusell wrote:
Crime and no punishment:


Who touched you in the naughty place

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