Warfare & Tactics

Hi,

So in the past few days my high-sec corporation has had several wars declared, and I am getting to the point where I have to ask the corp to abandon our high-sec system. Our station is being destroyed. For what reason? I have no idea.....

What is the purpose of this game?

I am becoming quite apathetic about Eve.

My corporation are mainly alpha miners, and so far we have suffered so much because of these wardecs. The help that we have hired has also not been effective.

I am thinking of moving to nullsec, but I don't want to because I am not a nullsec gamer. I am much happier in high-sec. I also thought that having my own corporation would be fun for the social content. And it was excellent over the last several weeks and I made a few friends. But now things are very dire.

Do I disband my corp? What a waste of time.

Why do enemy players have so much power of destruction in high sec?

Why why why?

Natocha

We get wardec all the time. We live in 0.0 so no worries!

Setting up a citadel was probably a mistake. In your situation I'd drop and reform the corp every time i got war decced.

As alpha miners you might find low sec both more profitable and safer while you are war decced. As venture pilots you are well equipped for sneaking in and running away. You might even consider joining a faction miltia and supplying them with minerals. Minmatar always need minerals in low sec.

To the op - You need to decide what is fun for you as that will dictate how you respond. Imo pvp is the most fun part of the game, but from the tone of your message I assume all you want to do is mine - well there are many ways to this and be left alone. Basically, unless you have personally pissed someone off you are most likely dealing with hub huggers - these are pvp grps that war dec large numbers of seemingly active carebear corps in the hopes of easy fights in the trade hubs. The best thing to do with hub huggers is blue ball them - deny them fights and they will move on to something else. It is easy to deny them fights - for instance you can all drop corp and go to an npc corp for the duration of the war (keep in touch and organized through teamspeak, discord and/or in game channels) . Alternatively you can move to lowsec - its easy to live in lowsec and if you make friends with the local pirates, it can be quite fun. Hub huggers will not chase you into lowsec as a rule because they want easy fights.

The only thing then you have to worry about is about corp assets - first off a rat is only about 600 mil - so it is essentially disposable - use it in place of an ast which is about 1.2 bil. Make sure your rat and anything else (pocos, pos'es etc) are in a holding corp. Most likely you are drawing war dec because your corp is visible - either folk are being seen in the recruitment channels or in the hubs or elsewhere - a holding corp is largely invisible because it does nothing. This does not mean that someone cannot come out and look at your citadel and dec your holding corp because they certainly can do that, but hub huggers generally dont want to dec 1 man corps with no activity just to kill citadels (they are a pain to kill and drop nothing). In fact, in the highsec system next to where I live (lowsec) there many abandoned citadels and no one touches them because it is largely pointless and no fun. Finally, consider moving - there are many empty place in highsec where you can live - the father you are away from the hubs the less decs and harassment you will see.

Feel free to pm me in game if you have any questions.

PS One last note - putting "mining" in your corp name is like waving a red flag at a bull. Its funny, my friend is in a dedicated lowsec pvp - they deliberately including "mining" in their name even though the only mining they do is killing freighters. Its funny how many war decs they generate from folk who just glance at the name and dont even notice that they never leave lowsec.

If there's anything i can help with in game don't be afraid to drop me an EvE Mail The game is a tough one to crack all the way through but it's worth it, and i'm always happy to help out a newbean if needed o/

EDIT : That's pretty much the best I've ever seen anyone react to that revelation :P

well i would say the name is increasingly inaccurate.


(That book is 24 years old - nobody is going to get any of these references....)

A lot of these responses provide alternative 'means' to avoid being wardecced.

I'm not interested in avoiding game mechanics. I'm interested in knowing why the game is packaged and publicized in a way that seems to appeal to carebears / players with no interest in or knowledge of the warfare/pvp content in Eve, and who end up making/joining corporations only to be hurt.

I don't see the point in playing an MMO if I don't join a corporation. A corporation should be about being part of a community that you choose how to direct: this does not necessarily mean war.

This game should be advertized as a war simulator, not a freelancing machine.

My corp has lost about 30 members so far since the wardeccs started, and currently we have 5 going.

And what exactly am I supposed to do?

I want an answer from the game developers.

If you set up the Corp structure properly war deccs are not a problem, however never ever set up a citadel or other complex without the means to defend it, there are defective minds who only reason to do war decs is to pee on others (so not speaking of PVP you know what I mean), although some may consider it that because it is allowed in the game.

Then you get the obsessed that will tell you that if you don't want war decs don't form a Corp, and blah, blah, CCP has given you tools to dodge war decs, learn them, learn the EULA, it helps a lot.

Use a POS for your Corp if you can't defend your complex, if a war Dec hits, unanchor and fly away.

True dat.

Well this conversation has been unhelpful.

Guess I'll just move along to the next game.