Out of Pod Experience

Funny how people complaining about aggression do not grasp the concept of action and reaction.

I'd like to see chat logs and private convos from Mandragarsky.

Well first off, OP, don't take it all too hard. After all EVE is just a game. It's not real. If the game and the way it's played do not agree with your disposition, find something else to do.

That said, I kind of understand what you mean. I have been on and off the game for nearly 14 years and although it appeals to me in many ways, there is also a large chunk of it that I personally don't like, such as griefing, or just simply losing stuff I spent hours grinding for in a few seconds. I never got into PVP, I prefer more 'constructive' gameplay. I am just not that into violence, be it in movies, games or whatever. While EVE does offer a lot of constructive gameplay paired with a nice atmosphere, the violence is never far away and you will be confronted with it.

I have been playing the last month after a long hiatus and I remember why I suspended my account, I will suspend it again because I choose not to put myself in a position where I get stressed out, and EVE does stress me out :) And all that means is that it's just not the game for me, I feel no need to judge anyone for enjoying it in whatever way they want. (and no, I am not giving away my character, stuff or isk.)

Anyway, assuming you're on the northern hemisphere, summer is here, suspend your account and go outside!

Take care.

I suspect I may not have effectively communicated my thoughts there.

What I meant was that a person should not allow any events in any video game to cause them actual emotional pain regardless of any possible motivations or actions of others.

In other words, it's just a game. We the real humans playing it choose whether or not to allow anybody else's actions to affect our emotional wellbeing or not.

If anything in a video game whether messed-up or not actually hurts you...sorry, but that seems a bit weak-minded and makes one question how easy one's real-life might have been / be.

EVE is a PvP centric full loot massive multiplayer sandbox. Yes it has PvE but this are merely gathering, crafting and money sources to fuel the conflicts of the game and give the stuff value by adding effort requirements to the creation process.

In EVE, a ship is a consumable and it can be attacked at any point except if you are docked. This is how the game was designed and how it is played. To be completely ignorant of the nature of this game and then pretend others who play it like it was intended are somehow sociopaths for hurting your feelings because you chose not to accept this fundamental truth is a bit disingenuous.

Actually the emotions EVE causes and the loss you feel are also intended. This is exactly why EVE is one of the only games which still gets the heart pumping when you fly your expensive ship into battle. This is why it feels so great if you win the battle or why it hurts if you loose your ship. No other game does this quite like EVE.

Now I know there are people who react pretty badly to adrenalin and are not able to enjoy EVE this way. That is unfortunate, but on the bright side there are hundreds of other games out there who do not have this effect on people, why not play one of them instead of trying to cripple this game who is enjoyed by a lot of people exactly because of the adrenalin?

As usual I will note that adding more content for people who don't feel adrenaline rush would not cripple the game for the other players. The more the merrier, instead of nodding and dreaming of the G.O.D. as PCU goes down and CCP comes up with more and better ways to squeeze an extra buck from players.

Well you know it's silly to get offers on SKINs when you haven't logged more than a couple hours in the last 12 months. Comes out as if they're trying too hard and devaluates the game. I mean, I still get spam from MMOs that were or went F2P, even some I only tried for an hour (LOTRO!). Now EVE Online does it too and it's disappointing.

*reads mail*

Seriously CCP, I gave you 1,200 euros already. Now you want more, yet come to me empty handed?

*shrugs*

It's not the adrenalin that's my problem, it's the cortisol :) For me, that's why I stopped playing, it is actually unhealthy.

Let me make it clear the I would not want to cripple the game for you or anybody else. I cannot speak for the OP but I get the impression he doesn't want to either, he would like to be left in peace, it seems.

Do I personally feel it is a bit over the top to get all emotional about being harrassed in-game? Sure. Me, I just say "hey, EVE has become something that I don't really like, scr*w that, I will suspend my account and go do something else. But if someone expresses genuine hurt about something, whatever that may be, I do try to sympathize. That's called empathy and it's free of charge. From your nickname, I guess that's not something you bring to the table, at least when it comes to this particular activity ;) And that is of course your perogative.

Anyway I should stop, after all I have only been active for maybe three years in total since 2003, so while I know a lot about what EVE was, and what it seemed to promise to me, I feel I am in no position to comment as much as I already have.

This is just a character name and maybe you read a bit much into it. I do sympathize with people who are genuine hurt about their spaceship loss. However I do not sympathize if they then come to the forums and demand the game gets changed because of it.

A genuine post usually asks for information about how to avoid such situations and there is a lot you can do to avoid them. The people on this forums are actually very helpful if the OP actually wants to learn and asks for advice. I mean if your thing is mining it takes like 20min of research to make you almost untouchable, meaning you will never ever be ganked again, they will not even try. If that is too much effort, just ask on the forums, people will gladly help you or point you in the right direction.

However if you come to the forums like the OP and cry how it is the games fault and how other players are sociopaths to take advantage of him not having a clue what he is doing, well then expect some appropriate responses like the ones he got.

Actually the added a lot of new PvE stuff lately: Burner missions, drifter incurions, drifter wormholes, ghost sites, all those events, NPC mining ops, all new content for the PvE player. Also there is just a ton of new stuff to manufacture with the new stations, and the mining side got new toys and massive buffs, so the industry side isn't neglected either.

I think the PvE content is rather bland and the additions are not very interesting to me. I suspect CCP ist just really bad at creating fun game content, and the only thing that worked out so fat is creating a sandbox where the players create the content. I mean look at their other games, not much difference there.

It would be nice if they could add more interesting stuff for the PvE players to do, after all more PvE players means more potential targets for me. And that is just how it works

Ah crap. I have to say something. I'll regret it.

Your words are not lost on many of us. Eve is a bear. It is a true bear. And it can be a second job, with all the jerks, rewards, grief, and occasional fun. Why people put themselves through this is personal. I'm not right between the ears, but that never stopped me in anything else I got involved with.

So on that note, I sent an alt into nul sec and got gate camped and podded. I sent a congratulatory in-game message to my killer. Now we keep in touch. My goal someday is to hunt him down and pod him. He's far, far more skilled than I am, so fat chance. It's a silly game.

Far too often I have to be nice at work and while walking down the street. It's usually so I can keep my income stream and not get punched in the face.

In Eve, if I want to be an a&&hole (or ar&ehole which sound so much more formal) I can be. I usually ain't, but it's my $15 a month. (C'mon CCP, we can use the word a&&hole w/o getting *******'d?)

Bottom line is this. I think I like Eve so much because it is a true, honest, authentic sandbox where, unlike in real life, you can get your ya ya's off and still physically live to eat breakfast the next day.

You sound like a very nice person. And I know from experience that you can putz around in high-sec in a Retriever all live-long day without a single solitary bad hombre causing you angst. Or you can send your bad self into the frey and let 'er rip or get your ass handed to you occasionally - w/o sympathy. Maybe by me...doubtful cause I suck at this. And I'll still be your fiend, even if I want to take your stuff.

Don't quit the game. Don't expect warmth and caring in the help channel. I made that mistake a few times. If you want to belong to a corp, join mine. I don't want to talk on Teamspeak any more than I want to go to my in-laws house for dinner. You don't have to communicate at all for that matter...probably better.

Just re-adjust your read on this thing. Eve sucks eggs so much I can't stop playing it. And God knows I've tried.