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It is hard to be constructive when the approach of CCP is to spit in their paying customers face and then a white knight shows up to tell us how we should thank them for the moisturiser. Just how much crap are we supposed to take and then pretend to be happy when they backtrack in trace amounts on terrible changes?

Sorry but I'm going to have to disagree with your point on this. No one is white knighting here.

If you've been dealing with this for a few threads now as a few of us here have, you'd see that we've been pushing back on this as much as possible (Told them its a bad change, needs revision, etc). Trust me we tried to tell them this wasn't a good idea and walk it back.

The most we're going to get here is having them iterate on this and take our use cases into consideration for revisions unless something serve happens which forces a roll back.

At the end of the day CCP is going to make the change as they see fit and the only way we can keep some semblance of control over the experience we get is give them actual feedback, not just sh*t all over the place.

I get it, it's an unneeded change as far as the player base is concerned. I hate it just as much as everyone else does, it's going to royally mess with my game play and honestly I'll probably be logging in less due to the random droning of stations and other things that I just can't take because I turn that stuff right off.

Sorry you see it that way.

But look at it this way. If you give feedback saying "It's ****, I hate it" then don't give options on how to improve it or give actual reasons why, they won't do anything about it. End of.

This change is happening (already happened) but if we give detailed, constructive reasons as to why we need / want a certain sound separate, they might...MIGHT... just give us that grace.

I'm not saying you should thank them, quite the opposite. I really dislike the new Advanced Audio, the original was a lot better and I had all of the sliders adjusted, but at least I can see how giving some semblance of decent feedback can help the situation here as opposed to me going "yep, hate it. Change it back or else I'm unsubbing" (like some people have).

The Sound settings were great. Just revert this change CCP, there was absolutely zero wrong with the way Sound has been for three years.

Bring back the sliders. Why are you breaking perfectly fine systems? Christ.

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I just want to scan and hear my probe scanning sound and not listen to ui clicks when i just move my mouse.

Please

I often have alts logged in and docked, while undocked and PvPing on another character. To keep these alts quiet while they're idle, I turn 'Station Interior' to zero to avoid overly cluttered audio. With the latest changes all my characters must have 'Atmosphere' set to zero to have the same effect, leading to a very dead sounding world on my undocked characters.

A good alternative to reverting this change would be an option to disable all sounds except for the interface (clicking, notifications etc) while docked.

I get the frustration, I do, but have a play around with the new settings. Feedback to CCP Antiquarian and give him something to work on. The more we can give to him, the more we can get something looked at for potentially getting something sorted in the way of more adaptable sound settings.

I don't see it ever going back to how it was but we can try and get it to something that slightly resembles it...

But yes, I do see a few people turning sound off over this.

Expose the audio sound files, let players do whatever they want to them w/o a "client modification" ban. The launcher can overwrite / fix changed files with every update; 3rd party tools will emerge to "unfix" and manage private sound schemes.

"Solar System Map" aka "Directional Scanner" aka "Probe Scanner" window sound needs its own volume slider. Please CCP Antiquarian please add this to your tally. Thank you for listening.

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EDIT: After some further testing I too must agree with a large majority of posts here. Many of the UI and ambient sound effects could be further separated for more usable functionality and player tailored immersion. But overall if I had to work with what we have now then, I could make it work I assume. Thanks again for "hearing" us out though.