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What does FULL API KEY IN YOUR APPLICATION Mean?

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Paulus Plain
Mitochondrial EVE Alliance
Sixth Empire
#1 - 2017-04-30 07:00:24 UTC
What does FULL API KEY IN YOUR APPLICATION Mean?
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
Dreamweb Industries
#2 - 2017-04-30 07:55:43 UTC
You are required to give a special key to your assigned HR manager that allows them to see all information about your character's in-game interactions, including wallet transactions, skills, combat performance, and evemails. Many corps require disclosure of full API as a standard vetting procedure.

APIs don't give actual control over or character, just information.

An API key can be created through CCP's support website: https://community.eveonline.com/support/api-key/

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Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#3 - 2017-04-30 08:34:09 UTC
Generally the recruiter will give you a link that includes the API mask they want. A lot of corporations will want an account wide API - i.e. they want to know all characters on the account - not just the character applying to join.

It's similar to the resume you provide when applying for a real world job. The meta game in Eve is arguably more important than the actual game so spying is a profession and the API check is basic due diligence to reduce the likelihood of recruiting an enemy.
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2017-04-30 08:57:00 UTC
It's a way to catch bad spies and corp thieves. The good ones know how to keep it all very well concealed regardless of any number of API checks.

Nardos Tatio
Doomheim
#5 - 2017-04-30 09:06:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Nardos Tatio
I don't need and i don't have to pull my pants down before anyone....

Even if the facebook generation sees "no problem" in this my data belong to me and I decide if and what i share....

No corp if this is the price....
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
#6 - 2017-04-30 09:07:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
An API key is created at:

https://community.eveonline.com/support/api-key

Depending on how it is setup, it provides only access to the public information about your character. For example, OP, here is the basic information anyone can access:

https://api.eveonline.com/eve/CharacterInfo.xml.aspx?characterID=96713730

However, you can also provide access to information that requires verification before CCP will respond with the information to a request made for it.

You can see a list of data that can be included, here:

http://eveonline-third-party-documentation.readthedocs.io/en/latest/xmlapi/

A request for a full API is generally a request for access to all information, for all characters on an account, including the characters not applying for membership.

Some Corps/Alliances also expect full API keys for all accounts you own.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Duckzer Mining Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
#7 - 2017-04-30 11:07:23 UTC
The end result of a full API is that that account and all characters and records can be traced for that account and characters for the entire life of that account itself. If you leave the alliance/corp they will still have full records of all your activities and contacts in the future, all mail, all correspondence in game, etc.

A full API is for life.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.

Cybertherion
Doomheim
#8 - 2017-04-30 11:11:24 UTC
It's a trap.

I only post here if EvE is offline. Which means my posts are never well timed.

EAT KRABSAK.

Aves Asio
#9 - 2017-04-30 12:03:13 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Some Corps/Alliances also expect full API keys for all accounts you own.


A try hard faction warfare corp once asked me this, i almost pissed my self. Like why would i willingly give out such information.
Cybertherion
Doomheim
#10 - 2017-04-30 12:10:17 UTC
Aves Asio wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Some Corps/Alliances also expect full API keys for all accounts you own.


A corp once asked me for this, i almost pissed my self. Like why would i willingly give out such information.


Fixed that for you darl.

I only post here if EvE is offline. Which means my posts are never well timed.

EAT KRABSAK.

Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#11 - 2017-04-30 12:24:33 UTC
There is no law requiring you to give out your API, just as there is no law requiring you to give a potential employer your resume or authorization to do a background check. But you aren't going to get the job or a corp invite unless you do. The question is who is doing who the favor here?

It's true that NPC corporations don't require your API - CCP already has all the information!

You can delete an API key and they will expire automatically after a year unless you specify no expiry.

As someone who has needed to hold secret security clearance as a condition of employment for most of my career, I can assure you that the API check required by most Eve corporations is relatively non-intrusive.
Aedaxus
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2017-04-30 12:32:10 UTC
Do Little wrote:
As someone who has needed to hold secret security clearance as a condition of employment for most of my career, I can assure you that the API check required by most Eve corporations is relatively non-intrusive.

I'll add "and no longer ever will get one due to exposing them on the Internet." I hope you didn't get too much restricted information in your hands if this is how you handle information.... your country is screwed.
Cybertherion
Doomheim
#13 - 2017-04-30 12:40:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Cybertherion
Do Little wrote:
There is no law requiring you to give out your API, just as there is no law requiring you to give a potential employer your resume or authorization to do a background check. But you aren't going to get the job or a corp invite unless you do.


Weird. I've joined plenty of successful corps without an API. IRL I became a bartender just by drinking at a pub. Did it for 4 years. I never had an RSA (Responsible Service of Alcohol) check or anything then either.

But I'm not a square.

I only post here if EvE is offline. Which means my posts are never well timed.

EAT KRABSAK.

Sir BloodArgon Aulmais
Fortis Fortuna Adiuvatt
#14 - 2017-04-30 13:31:43 UTC
Nardos Tatio wrote:
I don't need and i don't have to pull my pants down before anyone....

Even if the facebook generation sees "no problem" in this my data belongs to me and I decide if and what i share....

No corp if this is the price....


Here we go, another nut job who doesn't want us to see his wallet balance and where he keeps his ibis's.
Nardos Tatio
Doomheim
#15 - 2017-04-30 19:25:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Nardos Tatio
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais wrote:
Nardos Tatio wrote:
I don't need and i don't have to pull my pants down before anyone....

Even if the facebook generation sees "no problem" in this my data belongs to me and I decide if and what i share....

No corp if this is the price....


Here we go, another nut job who doesn't want us to see his wallet balance and where he keeps his ibis's.


Yep....

"who has nothing to hide has to have nothing against letting down his digital panties" or has he?.....

If life was so easy......

I don't care what you think about it but my data belong to me,not to a corperation (facebook(no acount here)) or an online generated key that can be used in a way i can't control.....

Maybe you see "no problem" in this because "everyone does it" and "the EVE corps demand it" but those demands are outrageous in my eyes and i will NEVER follow them....
If the result is a "no corp fo you" than may it be so.....

I don't give the data collecting krakens an inch where i can hinder them in collecting everyones data and scanning everyones life for possible sellable information......

Understand it or not that's the only opinion that counts for me....mine.....

And i don't give a dam if all others are feeling well in their digital nudity......
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#16 - 2017-04-30 20:30:34 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
The end result of a full API is that that account and all characters and records can be traced for that account and characters for the entire life of that account itself. If you leave the alliance/corp they will still have full records of all your activities and contacts in the future, all mail, all correspondence in game, etc.

A full API is for life.

you can delete api keys in your api settings. you can also create new ones and make a special one for the corp that you can later delete if you no longer want that corp to have it.

https://community.eveonline.com/support/api-key/

And if you don't want to hand out your info, don't. there are corps that will take you without an api, or with a limited api.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Nardos Tatio
Doomheim
#17 - 2017-04-30 20:36:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Nardos Tatio
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:

And if you don't want to hand out your info, don't. there are corps that will take you without an api, or with a limited api.


This is not relevant....

Even the demand of something like that is outrageous.....

Just don't give people you can't trust any rights.....not even the slightest...
Cartheron Crust
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#18 - 2017-04-30 21:27:45 UTC
It means you are applying to a crappy corp.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#19 - 2017-04-30 22:39:05 UTC
Nardos Tatio wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:

And if you don't want to hand out your info, don't. there are corps that will take you without an api, or with a limited api.


This is not relevant....

Even the demand of something like that is outrageous.....

Just don't give people you can't trust any rights.....not even the slightest...

then don't be upset when they don't trust you and give you the right to join their corp.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

oiukhp Muvila
Doomheim
#20 - 2017-05-01 00:04:32 UTC
I think the somewhat high demand for full api keys points to quite a few design weaknesses of this game.

The tools to counter spies and corp thieves should be more related to corp management and operational security.

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