EVE General Discussion

It would not be a real exposé, as in a futuristic real world, nothing that happens daily in New Eden would take place as regularly, if at all (visual scams, in a technologically hyper-advanced society?). Because RL has hardcoded mechanisms striving for homeostasis, and also because governments/megacorps/theocracies/whatever actually like inner stability and growth, and actively pursue most of the criminals.
This is not what happens in New Eden. Moreover, the alt system allows for escaping consequences, be it from NPCs or other players.

So no, in a futuristic real world, the rich and immortal could definitely not get away with everything basement-dwelling tryhards get away with, ingame


All your other suggestions have been implemented, and if you look at the EvE-Offline graphs you can witness the swansong of this sociopathy simulator, because that's what it really is. And widespread sociopathy does not create a functional society.

I must say I really enjoy that hard 10k drop in average online players over the course of a few months, and that nice downward slope!

Heh

My first feeling of the deep end was absolute unfairness.

Like being thrown into a gunfight, blindfolded with a knife.

You are right.
That's how people deal with the absolute freedom given.

The answer is DON'T. That's the whole point. The beauty of old EVE is that it gave you a space ship and then told you to go **** yourself. Most people can't and won't, but enough did that the game grew. THEN CCP thought they could engineer more people into the game. I won't link that 2012 Retribution article again, but it's the important thing that went so wrong.

If you give some people tools and let them figure it out, they will.


When CCP started to try to 'help' people stay, that's when the wheels fell off. It's a classic "nice person with good intentions" mistake,They just wanted people to enjoy EVE, not unlike in real life how people feel sorry for homeless people so they give them money....which tends to then be used to buy substances that make the homeless person's life worse (life pro tip, want to help a homeless person? Feed them or offer a ride to a shelter, or give them items like socks and hats when it's cold).

The worst thing in this virtual world is thinking you can "ease" people into an experience like EVE. The real truth about EVE is that it's not about space ships or game mechanics, it's about people. And the only way to survive encounters in a game against people is to get in there and learn how people work.

(The above is also why high sec sucks, it has mechanics that partially shield people from and discourage person to person interactions, so when that new player leaves high sec for the other 84% of EVE space, it's like a cold splash of water)

I dont know the specifics of the rest of what happened, but I do know that the above is never true.

It is a leader's job to lead/delegate/organize/bring everyone inline.
The buck always stops at the leader, as the person empowered/responsible to enact the above.

When an operation fails, its always the leaders fault. Always.
(No matter what sub-ordinates did)

There is no escaping this. The duty/responsibility/outcome is all on the leader.

All the men under my command/leadership, are my responsibility, as is our mission, for better or worse.
If my unit fails, it is because I failed to lead them to success.
Its my fault, not theirs.

I have to represent my unit to my superiors.
I have to know the strengths/weaknesses/capacity of my units individual members.
I have to cater for, and ultilize them to their best capacity.
My men are the valuable tools I have to achieve success.
I cant do it without them, and they can do it without me.

Leaders are the fulcrum that leverages a body of persons to their best output.

That is terrible price of leadership.
If OP fails, its always your fault, and yours alone.

Well you were the leader from March 2009 to November 2009 and I did what you asked and no issue. After we joined SAS you had issues with others, which caused the break. You have a very selective memory on that fleet and to tell me that I warped three ships in piece meal is just stupidly wrong, if you want to make points like that at least get your facts right. I just checked back and it was a Hurricane and pod from the initial warp in to try to strip tackle then the scorp in the main fight. The way you explain it actually indicates that you have no idea what happened.

First 6 months with you was great fun, though the drama around you was staggering, but it created content, after a while you could not help yourself and alienated a number of people, after that because of the good memories and that I liked your idea I tried to help, but because by that time I had at one point got my corp up to 80 characters, and was one of the leaders of an alliance I was the exact type of person you cannot get on with and you are too dishonest with yourself to realise that.

You could FC when I first met you, the last time I met you, you could not. And there you go again, telling me that I have never FC'd, just like you told me that I had never played Elite, seriously!!!! I tended to leave FC'ing to others, but I have stepped up a number of times, but normally I was with people who wanted to do it more than I did. So again you are wrong, also all the time during the time I was a leader in Pirate Nation I was sitting behind the FC's. You know nothing Aaron.

I know you can FC and I hope you step up and get back to what you were in 2009.

Funny enough what have I done in this alliance, while I know Fawlty7 personally, he remembers you by the way, and has a very low opinion of you. I came in smiled at everyone, helped where I can including explaining how to gank to one player, I have gone on fleets, don't get involved in anything RL, just talk about Eve and praise the guys running the fleets who are making great content. I was described by one guy as that funny pom who is a good laugh. I am doing something you could never do, I am a line member and I am leaving the great leadership here to just do it. So yeah Aaron I am going to screw it up, yeah right.

Now just go and play your game, I hope you do well and stop following me around like a dejected puppy.

Furthermore, a leader needs sergeants he can trust to tell him the truth, and to facilitate an interface to the linemen.

I could never have led my squad without my under-sergeant when I was a squad leader, much less my platoon via sergeants when I was promoted to sub-lieutenant, nor been able to report factually to my superior officer for what they need to know to make a call.

I relied on and REQUIRED them to tell me their absolutely honest opinion, with no reservations.
Anything else would have jeopordised the mission, and each man involved.

I trusted them to give me every single detail and concern they had.
They trusted me to make the right call.

Trust and unadulterated communication was the key.

Amen.

1) A unit is only as strong as its weakest link.
2) Even that weakest link in the chain has strengths as well.
3) A leader must be aware of and recognize these, re-align the chain's links, so as to reinforce the chain integrity. Constantly.
4) If a leader fails to do everything possible to do so, the leader himself becomes the weakest link in the chain.
5) As the foremost weight bearing, directing, link in that chain, and the one connected to other chains, the leader thus becomes the worst possible weakness in the chain, with the most far-reaching repercussions.
6) When the leader fails, his unit fails, and so does everyone else dependent on that chains performance in the rest of the web of interconnected chains.

Good leaders are very hard to find or generate.
Some come from the most unlikely places.
Choose whom you will follow with care.
But always make them work for it, as hard as you will work for them.

Are you back on the weed again?

It is your unit.
You must lead it and hold it together.
They are depending on you.

If your unit wont follow you, that is always your own fault.

Make it happen, by hook or by crook.
Make the chain work, make it strong, and fulfill the mission.

That is your job as leader.

PS: Losing Drac was quite possibly the worst loss you have ever suffered in EVE.
I would take Drac on as my sergeant for my unit in a heartbeat.
I know he knows his stuff, and I that can rely on him to tell me the truth as he sees on the field, always.
Absolutely invaluable, and irreplaceable.