EVE General Discussion

And to the point, high sec "victims" were only ever the minority, and hardly the core of CCP's current cashflow.

So why even bother listening ? They'll learn eventually and move on, like we all did once.

All times in gaming history where a company began to ditch its core play in favor of attracting the ADD kiddies numbers in, the game eventually descended into a shitstorm of fail, and died.

If Eve had to go, I along most of its current core playerbase would rather see it go down as the monster it's always been, rather than some faked up version just to please the spoiled-to-****-freebee-generation.

If Eve along with its public interest goes away, or even due to lack of funds, it will just go, and **** it, but I'll be damned if Eve ever gets saved by the ******* PVE crowd.

Lmao in your dreams.

Notice how when they know they are wrong they start grasping at things like spelling, or mentioning the populations of non-EVE games, or even debating what the term "the West" means (when it's clear how most people in Western countries use the term).

And they say you can never win an argument on the internet They must have never been here lol.

No actually it's spelled with an S. After a while of being unable to spell, Americans changed most "ise" words to "ize" to make themselves feel better about their inadequate education system. None the less "ize" is not the way. There is history of the use of "ize" before "ise" was eventually settled on, but it was during a time that people weren't really bothered about spelling things wrong.

Add that to the list. In the last 2 pages we've had

-"Whats the defintion of "the West"?

-"How do you spell victimise"?

-Killboards

- The PVe populations of games that are not EVE

It's (almost) painful to see the power of the truth as it burns it's way into people's fantasies...

Why not compromise and keep everyone happy by having different spaces to fit the different viewpoints of what eve is?

Ps: for talking about others mental health and happiness Jenn, it doesn't seem healthy to label the general public as the borg

I said nothing about the general public.

And I highlighted your point of failure. Compromise makes EVERYONE unhappy. And it throws the cloak off what you are doing here. You are unhappy with a key aspect of the game, and you think the solution is for CCP to change the game in a way that makes you less unhappy and other players more unhappy. This rather than simply either gathering up the will inside of yourself to stop playing a video game that makes you unhappy, OR come to terms with how that video game is.

And that's why you get so much opposition. It isn't (as you try to pretend) that "people are against change", but many of us are against opportunistic and narrow minded personal preferences clouding judgment. This is why it's been explained to you and demonstrated to you that EVE was a growing game until the day CCP started trying to cater to the "I just want to be left alone" types you represent.


I asked you a question, you did not answer. Why did you choose to play EVE? And/or why have you continued to play if it's non-consensual pvp structure bothers you so much?

Addressing patterns of thought is not a commentary on mental health. And when it comes to EVE, you don't base anything on other games. It is nothing like other games. It is its own unique entity that must be treated differently and respected as something you have never experienced before. You don't have different spaces in EVE because it's all one space. As much as security status gives the illusion of some kind of division of space now, it's not. Everywhere is fair game for any given activity that is available. That's what EVE was meant to be, one big arena of persistent and dynamic player-driven gameplay and story. If you want a certain place in EVE to be for one specific thing, then what you have to do, as a player, is go to that place in the game, and take control of it so YOU can set the local rules. You must be able to enforce those rules though, and yes, you can do this even in high sec as CODE demonstrates on a daily basis. That is EVE, player-driven, dynamic, and entirely up to you.

But you have to adapt to it if you want to see any kind of success. At the end of the day, though, you don't try to make everyone happy. You never do that. Trying to make everyone happy only results in everyone being unhappy. You definitely don't balance a game by trying to please everyone either, you balance it by looking at the numbers and bringing them to a place that makes sense, despite the opinion of gamers about that balancing.

I still don't get how you bully someone on something that can be turned off at will.

You make a big assumption that it bothers me much at all, or that playing eve makes me unhappy. That is all imagined. I chose to play eve after getting fed up of the simplicity of most MMOs and liked eves complex skill, fitting, industry, economy and single universe. Nothing much about pvp, though I knew it existed in low and null and through wardecs. I actually didn't even know about ganking when I first started playing.

Eve is what it is, but I can see it as more than that, with the addition of a more casual friendly area of space.