Intergalactic Summit

Yes, do keep deflecting reasonable concerns with knee-jerk snark. That makes it look less stupid, I'm sure.

Any thoughts on how to prevent any potential speck build-up in the clone from being harvested by corpse collectors or are we just assuming no one will be doing anything but station spinning for the foreseeable future?

Who's footing the bill for these specialized pods and the teams of medical experts that will be monitoring the readings around the clock? The Society?

What happens when a potentially infected capsuleer hits a bubble camp?

Edit: I guess that last question was answered

I dunno. if—and this is an if—what Aria's been shown is legitimately purpose-built pods for this situation—and I can't imagine someone isn't looking to sell exactly that kind of design to CONCORD, if they haven't already—then I'd have to imagine there's a catastrophic annihilation safeguard. I mean, what if the scanners detect speck buildup, despite the treatment?

If it was me coming up with this design (and I fully admit, it's not, so nobody has to worry about the pod cutting your hair and ripping your right arm off when you go to clean some rust), I'd be replacing the burn-scanner with a series of magnetic bottles containing roughly 200 kg of anitmatter, spread around the pod.

Of course... the resulting explosion from detonating the pod...

You know what? I think a 4-kilometer vaporization radius should be ok. Let's go with half a gram of anti-matter.

I mean, yeah, I'd go with 200kg of the stuff, but I like explosions. I've also been told I get a little excessive, sometimes. I think someone trying to get these things through safety inspection... they could probably get away with half a gram as a reasonable precaution against the detection of Kyonoke in the pod, or the unexpected breach of the pod.

Gotta admit, 'you'll blow up your whole goddamned hangar' is also a pretty good way to keep the egger in the pod for a week or two, too.

Edit to add: Why have 'someone' monitoring it? That introduces a point of failure. The system errs on the side of false-positives. If the computer encounters any of the following:
Positive reading for Kyonoke
Loss of seal
Anyone attempts to access anything beyond the navigational system or the pass-through for interfacing with the larger ship...

BOOM.

As for who's footing the bill... who fits the bill for the hundreds or thousands of normal pods CONDI goes through in a day of fighting already?

ANALYSIS OF KYONOKE ANTIDOTE FUELS CALLS FOR INVESTIGATION AFTER WIDESPREAD TREATMENT BEGINS

https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/analysis-of-kyonoke-antidote-fuels-calls-for-investigation-after-widespread-treatment-begins/

breaking news

If your statements were more constructive in nature we just might've listened to them.

No it is not just you Madame. But who are we to question their 'absolute truth'.
Of course, after all you are only relevant if you agree....

If anyone reading this board had even the slightest power to do anything about this, that would probably have mattered more. People who have made efforts to contribute to this situation have been outright blocked from doing so with no explanation for why or how, and there is quite literally nothing to be constructive about.

There is no path open towards being constructive when you're blocked from it, so all that remains is being a spectator, reacting to the information we're given. Even if you somehow could expect spectator commentary to be constructive, it's doubly impossible when the information we're given is wholly unreliable and demonstrably self-contradictory and unreliable.

Which bits can be considered to be true? Which bits are falsehoods, intentionally or not? There's blatant incompetence on display, but there's no way to tell for sure where. Is it the reporters completely butchering the information they are given? Is it their sources? If so, which of their sources and which parts?

If previous reports can't be trusted because these new ones contradict them, what's the veracity of these reports?

The only constructive thing I can do at this point, partly because the powers that be decided to block some people from contributing while others got access - through a selection process I have no information on either, but certainly wasn't determined on competency, interest or efforts made in regards to this crisis -, is sift through this wreck field of a media feed and point out the parts that don't make sense. The parts that contradict each other. The parts that may or may not be false or untrustworthy.

Our cluster, our people were and are at risk here and this right here? It's not exactly inspiring confidence in how this threat to them is being handled, and that's worth talking about.

I will never tie anyone down and force them to listen to me, be it you capsuleers or the baseliners reading these boards. That does not mean I can't or even shouldn't voice these concerns. Kyonoke is one thing, but these reports and these proceedings are frankly worse nightmare fuel.

Edit: Pardon atrociously poor sentence structures and grammar. I'm way overdue on a rest cycle and I'm not frying my brain with stims over a forum post. I'll leave it as it is, as a monument to sleep deprivation or something.

This is the board. The things that are out of place have been pointed out and questioned. 'Applying science' either requires data to work with or if you're simply talking about the method, reliable information. I personally funded and secured facilities for scientific pursuits, medical research and more for that matter, and enlisted both the science crews and capsuleers I employ and opened it up to anyone else seeking such facilities. Oh and I spread the word about that as well.

If this is insufficient, I wonder what exactly what you would consider sufficient to be able to speak on this subject?

I seem to recall the ravings of a man on a galnet social platform that the Drifters would cure the Kyonoke outbreak. Now that there is confirmation of Sisters involvement, it doesn't sound quite as lunatic. On the other hand...

In some respects this is almost in line with what I expected from he established powers, but with each successive press release, more questions are raised than answered, and the contradictions don't instill confidence in any impending resolutions. If I were more paranoid, I might think a deliberate 'muddying of the waters' is at play.

There is a good deal to digest in this, certainly not all of it substantive, but I hope more data is to come. Perhaps more structured discussions amongst dedicated parties would yield some truth.

@ Jaret: Since it covers a range of subjects, you'll find some of it in the Muttokon Containment and Staging thread and the rest in the relevant threads and places. If you are after one single public repository I should probably point out that there is no such thing made by anyone as far as I've been made aware.

That is simply the nature of an organic board such as this and I do not have the necessary skills to create galnet portals with different structures.