Crime & Punishment

Fair point

But only one way to find out.

The problem with your water/rock analogy is that you and your predecessors are the rock and ganking organizations like CODE. are the water.

Let that sink in for a moment.

I'm not a CODE. member, nor do I suicide gank (well, at least not often), but I've come to learn that they're actually trying to accomplish the same thing as you. Among other things, they're trying to get people to stop flying dangerously and actually enjoy the game instead of playing Boredom Online. (The fact that they're a money-making arm for various nullsec groups came later, but, whatever.)

The Code always wins. Here's how:

Successful suicide gank: The Code wins for obvious reasons.

Unsuccessful suicide gank: The Code wins. They had fun, and maybe they scared their intended victim into flying less dangerously.

Forces show up to protect assets and/or stop ganks: The Code wins. They have fun winning in spite of opposition, and people are getting more involved in actually playing the game and doing less AFK-play.

People learn to stop flying dangerously and/or play AFK less: The Code wins. This is actually the core of their belief system for as much stock you put in it.

The more you fight them, the more they win. The less you fight them, the more they win. Basically, they win no matter what you or anyone else does, so they always win.

If anyone here doesn't do this, it's him.

I promise not to mine for a month. Send me many ISK.

On this, we agree 100%. CODE. likes having an opposing force. I think other gankers do too, but I can't speak for them.

Well, technically I can't speak for CODE. either, having never been a member or even really on good terms with them, but whatever.

I wrote a long and detailed post about this years ago that I can't seem to find, but what I will tell you is this: look at ganking as a fleet action. CONCORD has Godly DPS and EWar. Gankers has abundant DPS and, if they've done their job right, sufficient buffer to tank CONCORD long enough to kill their target. What CONCORD is lacking is logistics. You can't realistically kill or jam gankers faster or more efficiently than CONCORD can, especially if the gankers in question aren't -5.0, but what you can do is load up gobs of remote reps on the target spread out so that some are continuously landing. You don't have to kill the gankers faster, you just have to give CONCORD more time to do the job.

Does this tactic work? In theory, sure. The problem is that no anti-ganking force has been big enough, organized enough, and willing enough to forgo whoring on ganker killmails to seriously try it.

Will you?

I agree! We want evil opposition to meet us good guys of the New Order. Makes the game more fun, and more PvP wins for us.

Good denizens of C&P, I bring ill tidings.

The OP is obviously none other than a Nitshe alt, attempting to subvert the highsec mining population into strike so he can sell off his bales of veldspar. (The veldspar was obtained during his MANY corp thefts, where he steals faction battleships and self destructs them, so he can salvage the materials. Yeah, he is stupid AF, I know.)

I call the court into service, and request excommunication (and a hefty fine, payable to the officers of the court, of course) of the OP for the heinous and dastardly charges of:

1) Attempting to incite rebellion during time of war.
2) Slandering the New Order of Highsec.
3) Posting his OP where he thought we wouldnt see it.
4) Heresy


Long live the Inquisition.

We are happy to announce that we have got some great/ and helpfull mails ingame from players.
We also got a few ideas from the people, that we will work on. (very cool and smart stuff)- People of eve is amazing.

We also wanna thank once again for the donations so far, and the thank you mail about our fittings. (There will be more help comming)

We know that haters gets noticed quicker, Especially in forums, but we also see the good side helping out.

This is a phase we must survive, And as long as we see more positive reactions by our help, we will be here for you.

The people rule!
Defend the new and those in need!
Highsec Protecting Agency

Lol, I remember his thread. 30 pages of nothing.


As a person who specializes in protecting miners, I can say that in many cases, with a well-executed intervention, you can jam gankers long before CONCORD's arrival and stop the gankers' DPS = prevent the gank. Hell, even a SKIFF can do it. (Some examples, for the curious, are here.) Maybe the OP can start by checking out the ECM mechanics against gankers. It's not the only method, of course, but it's fun. Just the other day I teamed up with another Anti-ganker and we ruined the gank of two Catalysts by jamming out their DPS. They had targeted a Scimitar which was a member of the other Anti-ganking fleet (composed of three ECM ships and that Scimi )

GFs echoed through local between AG and gankers and everybody had fun, gankers included. The gankers were told that they need a Ganking Permit and they even received my fantastic "Ruined Gank Report Form" with some fun elements in it.

Remember, "content is the king". Keep it Fun.

Start thread is updated.

Ty all for the support