Test Server Feedback

Hello,

After few weeks, I must say that this new iteration is not as great that I thought. In fact, it is less practical and confusing.

First, as previous posters said, the negative ISK part of the axis is useless and should be removed. But more importantly, I have hard time to use the graph properly because of the way it is displayed. An exemple with this screenshot of an officer item (Core X-Type Armor Thermal Hardener)
http://imgur.com/DgBXGmQ

At left, it is what the game show, without any modification apart the timeframe and date. On first spot, the main graph gives the impression that this item don't have any real fluctuations of price, but I can see that it is contradictory with the second graph below and with the ISK axis. Still, the first impression is that the price is going down SLOWLY because the game included the anomaly of 2016-01-21 (420 M).

After zooming a few, and so removing the influence of the anomaly, I get what the game SHOULD show me in the first place. Obviously, I won't have the same analysis than before. Yes, the price is going down but there are many severe price fluctuations and so I have to adapt from them (or take advantage of, whatever).

The right exemple (zoomed) is useful, the left one (game) is useless. And this is only one exemple, there are many situations like this all the time and so I begin to avoid using the market graph because the displayed informations are confusing. I can zoom but it is not practical and it becomes annoying after a moment.

You need to make sure that the player get something closer of the right exemple out-of-the-box.

Hey Soltys,

In November users will see a Price History graph optimization/performance upgrade (present on Singularity right now), but no core changes to the feature.

I did manage to get a programmer to agree to tackle a number of the other pain points, though, so those changes are underway and should be rolling out with the release following Ascension provided things go as planned. We focused on the most common bug reports and indications of difficulty/confusion in use.

Some intended inclusions are:

• an option to automatically adjust the graph and volume bar heights to the maximums of the selected area
• the addition of clicking and panning within the graph
• an autofocus/reset zoom button
• More sensible y-axis labels
• deactivation of the display of negative numbers (users will still be able to pan/zoom and move the zero line to whatever height they like)

The changes listed should appear on the test server about a week after Ascension deploys to Tranquility. Please feel free to continue to comment in this thread once you've taken a look.

I don't understand your complaint, but yes. Unequivocally it will not jump crazily, and neither will it loop through infinite resets.

Fair enough, let's wait for the new iteration then.

For the record, any chance for the small things mentioned earlier ?

• Wallet & Corporate Wallet -> Transactions: LMB double click is not defined on those, it would be great (and logical) if it called market details simiarly to orders tab
• Orders: both buy (no action defined on LMB double click) and sell (calls 'buy' dialog) - it would make more sense if double click called 'modify order' dialog for own orders
• 'Mark corporation order': analogous to 'Mark my orders' but showing corporation orders (for members with 'trader' role) with e.g. lighter blue background; this would be amazing for any trader operating as a corporation with multiple traders intersecting the same hub.

Soltys - We are only touching the price history graph with this feature. The other stuff you mention would be more up Karkur's alley than ours, but I can mention this thread to her.

Bad Bobby - I wasn't being sarcastic, but also not entirely compassionate in my response for which I apologize (not sarcastically). The behavior described by Mister Ripley and/or Vincent Athena isn't what's happening so it won't be present, but a pending defect that vaguely resembles the described effect (reproducible with items that have no price history or limited price history) will also not be present in the post-Ascension release.

I'm not sure if it's my lacking English skills or just bad wording, but I can't comprehend what you are saying.
The behaviour we described is what is happening.

Do you mean the defect that causes the time frame to reset to default, when viewing an item with a shorter price history and the following behaviour of setting this default time frame somewhere in the middle of the available price history when viewing another item, will be fixed?

Soltys! Karkur says:

"Post to the LT thread..."

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=275894

Good, I'm glad that is getting fixed.

I also appreciate your apology. But being unprofessional and apologizing for it, is not the same as not being unprofessional in the first place. Maybe a thread such as this one, where paying customers are complaining about your under performance, is not the correct venue for such behaviour?

Oh noes, that thread is like ... /dev/null

But allright.

Soltys, I'll also poke the QAs over there.