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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#221 - 2016-10-07 05:07:29 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:
For once I think I should take good advice honestly offered, thank you both.

Pro tip: Take good, honest advice every time it's offered. It's a valuable commodity in short supply.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#222 - 2016-10-07 22:09:35 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
This thread has a topic at this point? It's about a fleet last week...

Well, then it narrowed down for this tribal daring to request a duel from Caldari Officer, but being too afraid of actual coming and fighting. I believe at this moment I really shouldn't expect him coming anymore.

That's because he wants to fight you on the same kind of terms you demand of the people you challange: his home turf. Stupid to accept that kind of challenge, duels of honor should be held on neutral ground.

Stupid is to accept a duel of honor from a honorless person.

When I give a word, my honor demands I follow it to the end. But they aren't restricted by such rules. They can give a word on one hand and violate it when they come on grid. Thus any rule I agree on puts me in vulnerable position and gives dishonorable people a significant advantage over me.

I can't let this happen. Thus to fight with such space scum like him I demand only one rule: NO RULES.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#223 - 2016-10-07 22:58:04 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Stupid is to accept a duel of honor from a honorless person.

When I give a word, my honor demands I follow it to the end. But they aren't restricted by such rules. They can give a word on one hand and violate it when they come on grid. Thus any rule I agree on puts me in vulnerable position and gives dishonorable people a significant advantage over me.

I can't let this happen. Thus to fight with such space scum like him I demand only one rule: NO RULES.

Who do you mean they? If your referring to my kin I'll have you know I have never not honored a duel and it's agreed upon terms to its fullest, nor have I incorporated links or boosters (which are pretty much a standard for me normally) or even implants during them aside from possibly learning implants. Do not paint us all with the same brush for some of us are rather proud of our dedication to honoring duels.
Matar Ronin
#224 - 2016-10-08 01:36:26 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Stupid is to accept a duel of honor from a honorless person.

When I give a word, my honor demands I follow it to the end. But they aren't restricted by such rules. They can give a word on one hand and violate it when they come on grid. Thus any rule I agree on puts me in vulnerable position and gives dishonorable people a significant advantage over me.

I can't let this happen. Thus to fight with such space scum like him I demand only one rule: NO RULES.

Who do you mean they? If your referring to my kin I'll have you know I have never not honored a duel and it's agreed upon terms to its fullest, nor have I incorporated links or boosters (which are pretty much a standard for me normally) or even implants during them aside from possibly learning implants. Do not paint us all with the same brush for some of us are rather proud of our dedication to honoring duels.
Pilot Vess it is interesting that the tin soldier does not recount the number of times, or even one time, she engaged in a honorable duel and the other party actually cheated once on grid.

Just her overwhelming "fear" that they would.

Fear based on your own guts, or lack there of, and not on the real facts of the situation, is pretty much the working person's definition of cowardice.

I have discovered it is more often true than not, when someone is afraid to give their word of honor, it probably means their words have no honor.

So even the uniformed coward gets to live ruled by their own fear, never knowing would they have encountered a fair fight or not.

The fact that fear is stuck in their head in every clone they animate proves that cowardice is a basic part of their psychological make up. They can no more escape cowardice than a capsuleer can escape pod goo. Cowardice surrounds them, seeping into and out of their every pore, every moment they are awake. The relentless pressure from that fear can distort a human mind.

It explains why in this case the tin soldier refers constantly to her status as a militia officer, because it is the persona she wants desperately to become to escape her dismal existence as a racist coward. The problem is no matter what the uniform is, when you fill it with a sniveling racist coward, it will never live up to anything close to honor.

Fear stands between the tin soldier and her unobtainable dream of honor, even with the life span of a capsuleer there will never be enough time to cross a self inflicted psychological obstacle.

A long life absent honor, trying to fill a militia uniform, while encapsulated in the putrid goo of your own cowardice, is not a life at all, it is a sentence, a sentence fitting for a racist loudmouth tin soldier.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#225 - 2016-10-08 02:10:33 UTC
I can't blame you for that sentiment Ronin, but I can tell you I got a fair one from her, as much as I don't agree with much of what she says atleast with me I got a fair duel (her confirmed links support were not present. Yes I know who they are. Word gets around and I DO know and have worked with Cal mil on non pendulum war things to ask for that info. Joys of Merc work.) With her, if she fears an unfair duel I can't blame her when it comes to not trusting the honor of the other side. I don't always either, that's why I get someone to wait and finish the job incase it isn't a fair duel. For all she knows I could be waiting to clean up. I wouldn't obviously, I don't take duels lightly. But I doubt she'd believe my word on face value.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#226 - 2016-10-08 14:08:19 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Stupid is to accept a duel of honor from a honorless person.

When I give a word, my honor demands I follow it to the end. But they aren't restricted by such rules. They can give a word on one hand and violate it when they come on grid. Thus any rule I agree on puts me in vulnerable position and gives dishonorable people a significant advantage over me.

I can't let this happen. Thus to fight with such space scum like him I demand only one rule: NO RULES.

Who do you mean they? If your referring to my kin I'll have you know I have never not honored a duel and it's agreed upon terms to its fullest, nor have I incorporated links or boosters (which are pretty much a standard for me normally) or even implants during them aside from possibly learning implants. Do not paint us all with the same brush for some of us are rather proud of our dedication to honoring duels.

Obviously it wasn't about your kin, Ms. Vess, since we have fought duel indeed and you showed your honor. I just feel sad that I didn't kill you after, hoping that if you fought with honor, you would not become hostile again.

And now I see you becoming even open enemy of the State.

As for whom I was referencing as they, I'll repeat it once again (since I believe I gave the explanation even in the post you are referring to): dishonorable people.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#227 - 2016-10-08 14:20:49 UTC
I don't see how working with Cal mil in anti pirate activities makes me an enemy of the state. Nor do I understand how have I really become hostile towards the state (and to an extent you). I've had plenty of disagreements with you but the only caldari on my record were killed in Bosborgor, during one engagement while they attacked my home. Wouldn't say I'm hostile, indifferent maybe.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#228 - 2016-10-09 13:08:16 UTC
Your corporation belongs to Minmatar Militia. TLF is enemy of the Amarr Empire. Caldari State is ally with Amarr Empire. Their enemies are OUR enemies.

You belong to that corporation, and thus you are enemy of the State.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#229 - 2016-10-09 14:53:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Deitra Vess
Diana Kim wrote:
Your corporation belongs to Minmatar Militia. TLF is enemy of the Amarr Empire. Caldari State is ally with Amarr Empire. Their enemies are OUR enemies.

You belong to that corporation, and thus you are enemy of the State.

That's perfectly fine you feel us to be a threat, your militia's forces will still simply be seen as any random neutral to us. When Caldari forces actually gain the ability to take control of our home system and hold it under their own name we'll reconsider that stance.
Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Nadire Security Consultants
Federation Peacekeepers
#230 - 2016-10-09 18:25:39 UTC
Why is this thread still alive? It's been nearly two weeks since the deadline of the coronation and you people are still arguing the same crap you guys always argue day in and day out. Can't you all just make a channel and do it there instead of every single thread on the IGS?

Thanks.

I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.

Matar Ronin
#231 - 2016-10-09 19:46:10 UTC
Charles Cambridge Schmidt wrote:
Why is this thread still alive? It's been nearly two weeks since the deadline of the coronation and you people are still arguing the same crap you guys always argue day in and day out. Can't you all just make a channel and do it there instead of every single thread on the IGS?

Thanks.
It is very fascinating when someone enters a thread to rant against other people participating in off thread comments, while ironically not recognizing they are doing exactly what they are ranting about.

The self delusional meme of "do as I say, not as I do" runs strong among fly by ranters.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#232 - 2016-10-14 04:37:28 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Lunarisse Aspenstar wrote:
Just so we can save more walls of text, why not quit bickering and pick a neutral Amarr witness Captain Kim, and Mr. Ronin pick a neutral Gallente witness, and let the witnesses select the low security system and ship types for a duel, without links.

Ma'am, I am a Caldari Officer, and Matar Ronin is a dirty tribal. Accepting a duel from a space trash like him with forever dirty my uniform, making me trash like him.

I challenge to duel and accept challenges only from people whom I believe who have honor, whose words have value.

As for enemies - I simply shoot them down. If Matar Ronin dares to 'challenge' me, he can appear and show he can fight. If he won't appear - well, I have a job to do instead of chasing cowards and loudmouths from IGS all over cluster. I am a combat pilot, and there are capsuleers who represent way more serious threat than some raging tribal from IGS, who lacks some gears in his brain.

Did he appear yet? Did he? Did he appear? Yet? Did he? Did he come? Did he ask where you are? Did he pass your local? Did you see him in space? Did you kill him? Did he appear yet?

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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#233 - 2016-10-14 04:44:53 UTC
Obviously not because honor = laziness/not wanting to give up home system advantage.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#234 - 2016-10-15 14:26:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Ms. Hanaya. NO. Stop asking please. I didn't see him in space.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#235 - 2016-10-15 14:30:09 UTC
I don't believe I said who I was directing laziness or the other thing to. For all you know I was referring to Ronin in both regards. As far as your repeating an answer to points not even raised, how do you keep an idiot in suspense?
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#236 - 2016-10-15 14:42:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Deitra Vess wrote:
I don't believe I said who I was directing laziness or the other thing to. For all you know I was referring to Ronin in both regards. As far as your repeating an answer to points not even raised, how do you keep an idiot in suspense?

Ehhh... I am sorry then, I misunderstood you.

Reply directed to you has been retracted. Please excuse me.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#237 - 2016-10-15 14:46:54 UTC
No worries, it happens to everyone.
Matar Ronin
#238 - 2016-10-15 17:29:42 UTC
Now it would be nice if the cowardly Tin Soldier would just keep her poisonous mouth shut and out of my threads until she gained the spine to back up the garbage she spews by a fight with me a pilot fighting in something bigger then a frigate in her own backyard.

One would think an experienced State soldier with so many kills should not fear defeat, but this Tin Soldier is paralyzed by the fear of the ass kicking she'll get from me, someone she has publicly called a lesser.

It is because it will destroy the false tough military persona this scared little frigate killer with the dirty racist mouth has convinced many here on IGS demonstrates great abilities as both a pilot and a soldier.

Let's have a truth revealing moment.

After many years of service to the militia, not the fully organized military of the Tin Soldier's beloved State, just the militia, she is still flying and killing for the most part the low end of combat ships, the frigate class.

You can see the truth shows not much progress, not much demonstrated improvement in piloting or combat skills.

Granted her kills of frigates and while piloting frigates far surpass mine, that is not the area of skill I hang my hat on. In fewer years I can claim and fully demonstrate my ability to pilot and build up to capital class ships, mine everything in known space and lead some of the largest corporations in New Eden. (Skill Training Wise)

Measurable improvements versus a loud mouth racist frigate killer busy blowing her own horn in threads that have nothing to do with her. The Tin Soldier might have impressed many of you with her racist bluster, but not me, I can tell the difference between the confidence of conviction and the parroting of racist claptrap.

The Tin Soldier disgraces even the militia uniform she tries to fill everyday she fears to confront me outside of her own "Safety Zone". The cowardice of the Tin Soldier disgraces her militia peers and the Caldari State she hopes to serve.

The Tin Soldier knows that when I destroy her in her ship in combat I will publicly destroy the false tough military persona she has built up over the years, it will be as dead as the hero status she hoped would be the legacy of the criminal racist thug tibus heth.

You see how could someone so superior to a "tribal" lose to a mere tribal industrialist, not even a militia member?

The shame of the ass kicking would haunt her forever, so she'll offer every excuse to avoid it.

Come on Tin Soldier it is clear you are not good enough for the official military of the Caldari State, so stop disgracing the many Caldari who demonstrate honor and courage daily, even without being a capsuleer. They fly all over New Eden to fight and die, while you stand there hiding in your militia uniform shooting off your mouth, and you even do that with poor accuracy and effectiveness.

Because the dirty mouthed racist Tin Soldier is so lacking in discipline she will not be able to hide from this forever, she'll continue to blow her own horn and eventually others will call her out on it, and maybe one day the majority of pilots here on IGS will stop giving her the unearned pass and collectively demand she back up her talk with action.

Examine her combat kill record, she is barely a step ahead of a member of CODE, and unless you think them some of the best combat pilots in New Eden you must reevaluate why you give the frigate killing blustering racist Tin Soldier a pass on walking the talk.

In the language spoken in the Caldari State where she comes from how does one say "honor lacking racist disgraceful coward", I want to make sure the Tin Soldier understands clearly what I am identifying her as.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#239 - 2016-10-15 20:57:44 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:
Now it would be nice if the cowardly Tin Soldier would just keep her poisonous mouth shut and out of my threads until she gained the spine to back up the garbage she spews by a fight with me a pilot fighting in something bigger then a frigate in her own backyard.

Hey, I wanted to see how she would kill you! And she said several times she would fight you, why you break this comedy? If you are afraid to fight her, why do you call her a coward? Why you still claim she only fights frigates, it doesn't take a huge skill to see she flies battleships and even capitals.

Just stop writing so many words, you are doing nothing except showing yourself to whole forum as a coward and a liar. Tell us you won't fight her, and live with it maybe? Or just fight her, because I really really want to see how she will kill you, so much annoying you was!

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Matar Ronin
#240 - 2016-10-15 21:12:58 UTC
Luna Hanaya wrote:
Matar Ronin wrote:
Now it would be nice if the cowardly Tin Soldier would just keep her poisonous mouth shut and out of my threads until she gained the spine to back up the garbage she spews by a fight with me a pilot fighting in something bigger then a frigate in her own backyard.

Hey, I wanted to see how she would kill you! And she said several times she would fight you, why you break this comedy? If you are afraid to fight her, why do you call her a coward? Why you still claim she only fights frigates, it doesn't take a huge skill to see she flies battleships and even capitals.

Just stop writing so many words, you are doing nothing except showing yourself to whole forum as a coward and a liar. Tell us you won't fight her, and live with it maybe? Or just fight her, because I really really want to see how she will kill you, so much annoying you was!
How cute a Tin Soldier groupie, parroting the speech pattern and the avoidance of facts. Just add some remarks about your lack of a sex life, and spice it up with some over the top racism and you are all the way there!

Dim Kim II is born!

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.