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Glad to hear that suicide ganking is high up on your concerns list.

Just to be clear, my particular concern in this area is veteran players using their Alpha clones to suicide gank true new players also using either Alpha or Omega clones. You don't need good character skills to do this, just good player skills, which veteran players will have in abundance. Other than ethics, I can't see much reason why every veteran player wouldn't have at least one Alpha clone set aside for this purpose.

As to not using Alpha clones for more serious ganking, CODE has been solving this problem for years now the same way most EVE alliances solve their problems: greater numbers. Look at their freighter kills and you'll find dozens and dozens of people using T1 fits.

For the morons in the room: I am not against suicide ganking. I've participated in it myself. My concern is the game's ecosystem, and that we'll see far more suicide gankers once the barriers to entry are removed with disposable, free Alpha clones.

So please continue to keep it in mind, thanks!

Are you totally dense or purposely being obtuse, In every article i listed they say they have a free to play option but the game in it's entirety is still sub based and again you cherry pick snippets instead of the whole article. It would seem to a normal functioning person that the game is still sub based and that there is also a free to play option with limitations.

Why would they mention trial now, do you know what you even said then or what it means :a product or service that is offered to customers for free for a short period of time so they can try using it. Why would they mention trial when they are offering you the alpha state that never expires

Hello piloteers,

Today is a sad day as we pilots from an earlier time have lost the battle we so fiercely fought against. CCP has decided to introduce pay to win and focus more on making revenue instead. Because of this move less company energy will be available for player experience, immersiveness and the quality of the game*. According to me the only remedy to keep player retention is good quality content in exchange for the right price.

However CCP could have done it much more differently and much more elegantly.

My proposal would be to make 3 subscription accounts namely beta, gamma and omega**:

B -> Beta clone for $3-5 a month.
These Beta clones are for pilots that can use all small sized ships and modules. They can use and train any skills further if they wish except the medium or large sized stuff.

G -> Gamma clone for $8-10 a month.
These Gamma clones are for pilots that can use all small + medium sized ships and modules. They can use and train any skills further if they wish except the large sized stuff.

O -> Omega clone for $15 a month.
These Omega clones are for pilots that can use and train all stuff. These are the current accounts we have now.


*As it is known from similar attempts the overall quality of the game will slowly dwindle and development will be less about making new, fun and good content.

**Alpha could still be the trial account but that should not be unlimited.

Please explain how by them offering everyone access to there accounts for free, old / new / expired and completely free access with limitations to anyone who wishes to try the game unhindered by time restraints, Trial has become pay 2 win.

So you suggest that someone who pays 3 dollars a month should have the same access rights as someone who pays 15 dollars to PI / industry / Invention / Maunfacturing but because they only fly small ships its fine ... Really

So what your trying to say now is that you would prefer CCP to do what blizzard did when the rumour mill started with there Free to Play option, Say its a free to play mode, which if you read through every single article thats been published on it its what they're saying just that the headline just like Blizzards at the time read wow's gone free to play or in our case EvE's gone free to play.

They all love click bait, not saying it wasn't intentional from the source but nothing else in the articles infer's to it.

well, why do you have to control it technically? Maybe you just have to give your creditcard datas (without actual using it) to play Alpha. Or it is bound to your steam account. So you know who ownes the Alpha and so you can prevent him from logging in multiple accounts. You can't totally prevent it but you can make it a lot of hassle to do so.

Upon recently returning I found the game to be depressingly empty, and while CCP really needs to do something to address the stagnation I fear this will not be a positive move.

The last time that CCP made a major push focusing on noobs in frigs(FW) was the beginning of the end for EVE, this could be the death knell.

FW focused on noobs in frigs and lead to everyone I knew, allies, enemies, acquaintances etc leaving the game within a short period of time.

Low sec used to thrive with just about everything. Ratters, miners, traders, industrialists, mission runners, explorers, pirates, anti-pies, mercs etc... As soon as they turned those regions into zones for noobs in frigs all of the ratters, miners, industrialists, mission runners, antipies, and generally non-combat oriented types deserted due to the startling appearance of fleets in local(give them 1 or 2 red flashy and they hardly notice, a constant fleet of noobs in frigs and they freak), node lag etc. Not long after that all the pirates left because noobs in frigs are not interesting or profitable targets for end-game piracy when you were used to going after marauders, faction bs, exhumers, capitals etc... Now we are at the point where a day-long low sec roam, even on the weekend is not likely to produce anything good because low sec was depopulated for good by FW.


So we are back at the point of adding more content geared solely towards noobs in frigs. So will we have massive t1 frig or cruiser fleets going around scaring off actual players just by being a general eyesore and/or causing node lag? Seems pretty likely to me!