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Sorry about the caps and whatnot, but I do have what I think is a genuine question: Will faction/DEDspace modules be allowed for Alpha Clones?

This is relevant because lower skill requirements are one of the major perks for these modules. In fact in some cases they are otherwise Identical to T2.

For example a Corelum C-type Energized Membrane requires only hull upgrades III to fit, where as the T2 version of it requires Hull upgrades V, which is beyond what an Alpha clone can train. Personally I think they should be able to use them. It leaves a lot more options open, but at sharply increased cost which makes things interesting.

Also letting somebody use more than a single Alpha clone account from one computer, which many many other people have pointed out is a TERRIBLE idea, is in fact a terrible idea. Don't let it happen.

Other than that I'm cautiously optimistic. This looks like a change that could keep a lot of people in the game who enjoyed playing but didn't have time to get their $15 worth every month. Be flexible if problems pop up an I think it could work quite well.

Firstly, really nice idea, the core reasoning is good for EVE. I am sure you will be able to adapt and amend to avoid the exploits, and inbalances that will occur, and modify as required, it will get a lot of interest going, either way.

One suggestion, I understand the logic to limit to a single race for weapons systems, but it might be wise in conjunction with this, to eliminate base racial training on cruisers and below, and introduce new skills. Ie Amarr destroyer skill gets replaced with destroyer skill.

(Non race) Cruiser, destroyer and frigate.
Thereby Opening up a choice for alphas.

Together with these for access to more advanced vessels.

racial Cruiser specialisation, racial destroyer specialisation and racial frigate specialisation. Only trainable on Omegas, requires ship skill to IV.

This would be a lot cleaner, clearer, and manageable.

Good idea. Limit them to low and null.

I think your worries are valid, but I do not believe it will be as bad as you fear.

At the end of the day, we spend our time talking to our corp and alliance members, that will not change, and many corps will not accept these players for membership.

EVE is full of great players and people, and also full of complete idiots. Nothing will change, we just choose who we talk to.

If your account is subbed...every character on it is Omega, so 2 accs subbed, 6 Omegas..Try to keep up ;)

Well, here's to more high-sec ganking catalysts

I agree that this wont work because ftp doesnt work. But list of reasons why people dont play eve is flat wrong. Eve is a niche game that catered to hardcore players. It was counter programming to games like wow. When eve embraced its hardcore status it thrived. The more articles that appeared in the news about big fights, assassinations and corp thefts, the more eve grew.

Eve only went off the rails when CCP started chasing casuals. Just as an example - when I first started playing there was a pretty good chance that someone would haze you in a starting player system - they would put up a can saying something like "tactical supplies" waiting for you to take it and when you did they would blap you. Sure it was not sporting - but it gave players a taste of the true eve - while those that didnt like it left, others, htfu and figured out how to survive - those survivors became long term players. Now, ccp has made it so the starter zones are safe bubbles divorced from the real rules of eve. So a starting player does not get to experience being ganked until later in his career - so instead of losing an ibis in a starter zone they loss a faction bs which they bought with plex in a lvl4 mission system. Since they hadnt been hazed early in their career and no one told them about pvp in their tutorial new player experience - they had no idea that they could be ganked and when they lose that faction bs they rage and maybe quit. By making eve starter systems more safe and friendly - all ccp did was make the lessons harder to swallow in the long run.

Boy, you thought the trade hub locals were a **** show before... we'll see endless new scammers, ads, junk links - who knows what else.

omega clone master race!

For the folks saying F2P won't actually help new players, I disagree.

I work with new players a lot, and one of the common concerns I (and others) have had is that, with the current 14- / 21-day trials, new players just don't have the ability to become invested in the game. That isn't enough time to socialize with people and get to know them while also learning about a game that's unlike any other they've ever played. Once their trial has ended, most people aren't going to continue looking into a game that they've already experienced.

EVE is a huge game and it has many, many facets to it. For many new players, however, those facets largely stop at mining in highsec. They aren't around long enough to learn more about what's available in the game, and with a lack of emphasis on socializing and often staying in the same new-player systems, they lose out on a lot of interaction with vets who could talk to them about the deeper topics.

How many people are likely to stick around after the trial period if they have to pay $15 / month to mine in a Venture in highsec? Not too many. Extended trials, or even this F2P method, would allow them to stick around longer, giving them a much higher chance of encountering vets who can help them or at the very least learning more about what EVE has to offer.

If done right, this has a chance to have a huge impact on improving the lives of new players, if only because it gives them a chance to actually experience more of EVE without making them pay to learn the basics. More time in the game means more chances to meet others and to socialize, which itself will lead to more people sticking around. EVE is a fun game when played with others, but can be awful when playing solo. This, hopefully, can help alleviate the tight time constraint to overload them in such a short window of time.