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We can agree on SP trading, but jump fatigue was badly needed. It's a horrible band-aid that literally gives cancer, granted, but it's still needed for the overall health of the game.

I mean, they can do it already with contemporary trial accounts, so I'm not sure what your point is.

thank you, amd how about the skills? without multitraining, can sub charactor train to same skill as alpha can have? or still need a plex to enable them to train

Narh, it should not be limited, since most of the "interesting" stuff is happening outside of highsec.

They should however limit multiboxing, so you can either only have one Alpha account active or an Omega + any Omega multiboxing alt. Basically, you shouldn't be able to multibox an Omega and Alpha or several Alpha accounts.

If they leave it as it currently is, the system is just too easily abused by older players.

As a FW player, I will just have a Griffin following me every time, essentially killing solo PvP, since you now need two ships to kill me. Or just create a swarm of Tristans and share the drones with my main.

There are many more ways to abuse this, but generally free multiboxing alts is a bad thing.

Great move CCP.

Hoppefully this will bring a lot of new blood to the game. A lot of people trying it, a lot quitting, and some being hooked...

Restricting skill extractors shouldn't be an issue, since you need 5.5m sp on a character to use one to begin with. As long as the Alpha clones can't reach that level of sp, skill extractors are moot.

I have only been playing EVE for nine months, so my experience is limited. In that short time, I have found that New Eden is best enjoyed as part of a great corporation. Space is quite empty and lonely otherwise! Since this change will hopefully encourage new players to check this game out, and since more players will result in more chances at building relationships within the game, I think this will be a good change.

After reading the dev blog and all the comments so far, it does seem that limiting alphas to green in hi-sec and to only one account per computer would be helpful for preventing abuse.

I do not read the forums very often, which choice has been reaffirmed after reading through these posts today. There is a lot of unhelpful expression of anger and even some outright hatred in many comments. It is great that people feel so much about this shared world -- I care about it, too. But it seems odd to take time only to vent spleen without suggesting anything constructive. And, at the end of the day, staying here is a choice. If it's no longer for you, there's a great big world outside of EVE out there!

Bad idea, IMO. I want Alpha characters to join me in nullsec to experience the area, to either fleet up with me or to shoot me.

I would have limited Mass Production to Level 1 instead of level 3.
2 slots vs 4, Granted both are far under 11.

What will happen if someone installs 11 slots for a year, and then goes to the standard account, will all 11 go idle, will only the last 7 go idle, or will the game cycle through them and run only 3 at a time?

What about Implants?
If you have something that requires Cybernetics V installed, what happens when you drop to the lower "clone"... Will they stop working, or will they just work "as well as" the ones at Cybernetics 3?

Limiting them to 5 mil or so SP is good but I would also be tempted to put in a few other restrictons like making them stay at green or yellow on the safety settings just top stop suicide alts farming. I know this is mentioned but why you wouldnt pick this as a first option is a bit confusing to me.

Once the "Alpha" is maxed on their SP, what will happen, it just sits there?

If I have a training queue going then what will happen, will it drop out fully or something else?.


Generally I say I like this idea, It's like a better version of a trial account as it doesnt expire.
As it is now you can get a "Free" account that will last until around 3.7 mil SP, so this isnt a huge change.

As someone asked earlier, what about trails and referrals?.

New players will save money by not buying an account until they are at the end of their 3rd month. I cant help but think a price decrease (or first 6 months half price offer) would have been better and less trouble.

Can we up the SP of a new player too. I dont see the point of make a new players do **** all for a few days while train basic skills. Putting someone into a tackle frigate on day 1 isn't fun.. You get fragged and bitter vets moan at you for losing point. t1 cruisers should be a players first ship.. Not a frigate.