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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#141 - 2016-07-26 16:31:06 UTC
I have never said new player is ganked and leaves because of that. Some may, but actual damage is to people who dont want to try, and ones who are established eve players.

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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy
Caldari State
#142 - 2016-07-26 16:31:59 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Lucy Lollipops wrote:
I just noticed my link to the zkill was removed by isd Shocked

Technically killmail links are against forum rules entirely - you are lucky they haven't just locked your thread yet P


Really? Didn't know about it.

So where can statistic be found "officially"?
Caco De'mon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#143 - 2016-07-26 16:32:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Caco De'mon
Pandora Carrollon wrote:
I have to be missing something here.


I suggest you (and anyone interested) roll play a CODE agent for a day. You don't need to actually gank anyone but just hunt for miners with a known ganker ship and you will quickly see why they tears flow so easily for these types.

You respect your environment and those around you. You are aware. You know that threats can come at any time from any direction. You realize that to somebody, you are just a target and you act accordingly. Almost all my victims don't even move.....aren't even aligned....are still in their pods when I return for the loot...

These types do none of that. They park on the 0 and flip their lasers on while they hit play on some video. As you only have seconds to react in EVE, chatting, watching vids or doing something else is not recommended...but these types feel that they are entitled to be 100% safe, earning ISK all the while doing something else...

I commend you for your situational awareness and space work ethics. I hope to never cross you as I believe your warning....

HighSec life isn't the problem, it's how some live that life that is...

o7

*"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#144 - 2016-07-26 16:33:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Pandora Carrollon wrote:
I have to be missing something here.

I have been a HiSec resident from the start of this toon. I have ventured into WH space, dropped into Lo/Null. I haven't seen an epidemic of ganking and I live right next to Uedama.

I have been attempted locked ONCE by a potential Suicide monkey. I was alert and was already warping by the time I was being yellow boxed, no chance of getting me. I was in a Stabbed and quick spin Miasmos with less than 7mil of cargo. That was my only encounter with suicide ganking in 6 months. I've only lost 1 ship to another player and that was due to my own inexperience and stupidity.

So, what is this epidemic of suicide ganking that I'm supposed to be shaking in my boots over?

I'll say it again, take me out and I will make certain to make your life miserable, one way or the other. There is only one way to effectively deal with bullies and racketeers:

The Chicago Way


You aren't missing anything, the reason why you (and I, and many others) never have these problems (I've lost a shuttle and 2 pods to CODE/Goons in high sec ganks) , problems that compel others to make forum thread after forum thread because they suffer gank after gank, is contained in your own sig:

Quote:
Be Positive • Change yourself first, New Eden will come later


There are two types of people in this situation: The people who are aware of what's going on around them , and if they suffer a bad turn their FIRST thought is "what did I do wrong, what am I missing, how can I do better next time". Then there are those others who suffer a bad turn (oe see someone else suffer one) and immediately jump to "this is an outrage, this should not be allowed, there ought to be a law against this!!".

The 1st type is inward looking and understands that the only thing you are in control of (and thus the only thing you can reliably change) is yourself. The 2nd type is outward looking and tries to manipulate their environment to fit them rather than adapting to fit their environment. The 2nd type thinks that everything they are doing is perfect, it's that other guy over there that needs to change, thus the 2nd type never improves and always faces the same results.

As you might have noticed, I'm not a fan of the 2nd type Cool
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#145 - 2016-07-26 16:34:19 UTC
Lucy Lollipops wrote:
I just noticed my link to the zkill was removed by isd Shocked

Posting kills is not allowed in this forum part.

Personally I think CODE. does a largely undervalued but very necessary service to New Eden.

... and serious note, all those who compare New Eden to real life rules, forget to do a proper translation. What if in real life we all would be immortal demi-gods? What do you think the society would look like in a few thousand years? I'm not optimistic ... it would be much closer to New Eden than you might expect.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#146 - 2016-07-26 16:34:24 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Clearly you have not read all of my responses, dont try to ask about what was already in them., I will not repeat myself over and over. Its an issue that needs solving in delicate manner.

And on that note, I think I had enough conversations today, because its all too much for you. You have not been able to grasp in entirety.

I dont think CCP grasps it also.

Well others have already said - since you want to fundamentally change all of EVE - find a different game....

I'm just trying to talk about 1 specific point, not your entire grand plan.

If you can't answer 1 basic objection about 1 detail of your plan, I really don't see any point in moving on to the grand scheme and the many other flaws waiting to be discovered...

I know its hard, and I am not a developer. I thought they were. Just a few thought out suggestions rather than propositions that would need maybe a little tweaking. You get the general idea, Maybe it is somewhat flaved, but for me it has a lot of potential, and if that potential can be build upon, to make some actual feature, well. I think EVE would get better for potential players.

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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy
Caldari State
#147 - 2016-07-26 16:38:24 UTC
Caco De'mon wrote:
Pandora Carrollon wrote:
I have to be missing something here.


I suggest you (and anyone interested) roll play a CODE agent for a day. You don't need to actually gank anyone but just hunt for miners with a known ganker ship and you will quickly see why they tears flow so easily for these types.

You respect your environment and those around you. You are aware. You know that threats can come at any time from any direction. You realize that to somebody, you are just a target and you act accordingly.

These types do none of that. They park on the 0 and flip their lasers on while they hit play on some video. As you only have seconds to react in EVE, chatting, watching vids or doing something else is not recommended...but these types feel that they are entitled to be 100% safe, earning ISK all the while doing something else...

I commend you for your situational awareness and space work ethics. I hope to never cross you are I believe your warning....

HighSec life isn't the problem, it's how some live that life that is...

o7



So why CCP made a so really really slow mining system?

When I do gas huffing it's fast, dangerous but fast.

I cannot believe any person with a normal intelligence can imagine a player stays in front of his pc pressing dscan to avoid ganking while it takes half an hour of mining to have a little value.

No one can imagine that persons stay 100% of their time in front of their pc pressing d-scan for hours for a little amount of value.

No one would do it more than a couple of days without quitting the game.

It's impossible in my opinion that developers justify ganking because hisec players are supposed to see a mining laser of a ship for hours pressing dscan to avoid ganking.

It's something too stupid.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#148 - 2016-07-26 16:39:33 UTC
ITS really a lot of stuff to change for better when I think about that now. Shocked

I get its like a completely other game. Can EVE become it one day?
Hmmm, i dont have anything to lose, i will wait and see.

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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#149 - 2016-07-26 16:44:52 UTC
Thread closed for redundancy. The ganker anti ganker debate is a battle fought longer than the Forever War.

ISD Max Trix

Lieutenant

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

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