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GalMil: RDRAW wardeced

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Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#81 - 2016-05-12 13:45:37 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Dread Operative wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:
A lot of Snuff members are not happy about the blue with RDRAW either.

Many are using alts to shoot RDRAW until the time comes when they can do it on their mains again.


This is an outright lie.



Actually it isn't a lie. It is one of the few true things I have ever typed on these forums.


Maybe you don't know your own people as well as you think you do.


I don't think you understand what "a lot" means. Do a FEW people not like Rdraw blue cause it messes with their solo content, sure.

But I know you're a troll, so continue to run with it.
Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#82 - 2016-05-12 13:50:28 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:

Dread Operative wrote:
And would a small smattering (at the time) of Rapid Withdrawal pilots really made the difference against our super wing?
On the field, who knows? In terms of forging strong bonds, absolutely.

But hey, what would rabid friendly-supercap killing lemmings know about things like that?


Nice attempt at character attack, but if you read Reddit, FHC, and any of the interviews I was vehemently outspoken about the incident. Regardless your attempted insult doesn't link with the point your trying to make. Please try again.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2016-05-12 13:56:33 UTC
Dread Operative wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:

Dread Operative wrote:
And would a small smattering (at the time) of Rapid Withdrawal pilots really made the difference against our super wing?
On the field, who knows? In terms of forging strong bonds, absolutely.

But hey, what would rabid friendly-supercap killing lemmings know about things like that?


Nice attempt at character attack, but if you read Reddit, FHC, and any of the interviews I was vehemently outspoken about the incident. Regardless your attempted insult doesn't link with the point your trying to make. Please try again.
I missed your interviews. Link?

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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#84 - 2016-05-12 14:13:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Dread Operative wrote:

Nice attempt at character attack, but if you read Reddit, FHC, and any of the interviews I was vehemently outspoken about the incident. Regardless your attempted insult doesn't link with the point your trying to make. Please try again.


Its very reassuring that you were brave enough to say words in reaction to a pointless betrayal. Words > actions. Oh, and even though you were 'vehemently against it', you still managed to stay in an easy mode alliance, so brave.

Im glad that your words were enough to repair your alliances reputation lol.
Lexiana Del'Amore
Nouvelle Rouvenor
#85 - 2016-05-12 15:09:48 UTC
Gallente brothers and sisters are fighting eachother cuz Caldari have been a joke for 2 years now...

No real problem with RDRAW myself...
Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#86 - 2016-05-12 15:37:06 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Dread Operative wrote:

Nice attempt at character attack, but if you read Reddit, FHC, and any of the interviews I was vehemently outspoken about the incident. Regardless your attempted insult doesn't link with the point your trying to make. Please try again.


Its very reassuring that you were brave enough to say words in reaction to a pointless betrayal. Words > actions. Oh, and even though you were 'vehemently against it', you still managed to stay in an easy mode alliance, so brave.

Im glad that your words were enough to repair your alliances reputation lol.


1/10 horrible troll and attempt of trigger words.

Yes, because I chose not to let the decision of a handful of people ruin my game for me and to push me away from something that I helped build. Shame on me.
Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#87 - 2016-05-12 15:38:37 UTC
Anyhow back to point, seems this war has mostly been fought on the forums and reddit. Please do something for real already.
James Clough
Space-Brewery-Association
#88 - 2016-05-12 16:10:40 UTC
Dread Operative wrote:
Anyhow back to point, seems this war has mostly been fought on the forums and reddit. Please do something for real already.


This

#GLITTER http://i.imgur.com/KXyHvqy.jpg

Roy Henry
Black Fox Marauders
Pen Is Out
#89 - 2016-05-12 16:11:55 UTC
I thought Reddit was where wars were fought in 2016.
Master Sergeant MacRobert
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#90 - 2016-05-12 16:15:37 UTC
This all seems like the 1st or 2nd act in the story of the Prodigal Son.

Quantum Cats Syndicate left their family and they're currently all bitter until the last act. Friends again in 2017?

"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#91 - 2016-05-12 19:32:53 UTC
Dread Operative wrote:

1/10 horrible troll and attempt of trigger words.

Yes, because I chose not to let the decision of my main FC, CEO and head of the alliance, ruin my easy-mode game for me and to push me away from something cancerous that I helped build. Shame on me.


K.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2016-05-12 21:38:58 UTC
Lexiana Del'Amore wrote:
Gallente brothers and sisters are fighting each other cuz Caldari have been a joke for 2 years now...

No real problem with RDRAW myself...


There is alot of truth to this. It's nigh impossible to get a fight out of Cal Mil that doesn't involve gate camping Svipuls or upshipped/outnumbered blobbing that runs at first sign of potential danger. Cal Mil solo'ers and small gangs are virtually nonexistent in most time zones.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2016-05-12 22:04:54 UTC
Regardless, the incident that is being portrayed as a casus belli is a lot of nonsense. From what I understand, someone undocked their neutral fax into a fight and was surprised when it got shot at, and then some of you started deploying caps 3 jumps from Snuff's staging system and were surprised when they showed up quickly. When literally their primary form of content as an organization is hunting capitals and supercapitals. The whole thing is just an excuse to kick something off that a few people in GalMil leadership have wanted for awhile. They just needed a valid reason to feed their grunts.

From my admittedly limited perspective, this divide seems to be fundamentally about the desire/dream of some of the old Galmil leadership to build Galmil into a supercap wielding, fully escalation capable power bloc capable of going toe to toe with groups like Snuff and SC all the way up the escalation ladder and quickly and regularly forming large end-game doctrine fleets. They want to build Galmil into something like Snuff or SC to the point where it would be this power bloc within GalMil having free run of the warzone under a protective super umbrella, rather than the other way around. This isn't necessarily a bad dream or objective to work toward long term. But you've got some folks like our Dear Leader (long may he rule) Tek Stalker who don't share this exact vision and aren't possessed of a burning desire to kick Snuff's teeth in at every possible opportunity and send them limping off to null where they belong.

I've flown with snuff a few times now. Been dropped on by them a few times. First time I saw a Nyx up close. They don't seem like a bad bunch as filthy pirates go. And I think there are many people in FW and in RDRAW who can't or don't wish to dedicate the time and effort to this game to be a part of a supercap wielding, moon farming power player. Access to that kind of content through an ally without having to structure our own organization the same way is pretty appealing. Basically, this whole little scrap is about a difference in vision and some serious resentment on the part of long term Galmil leadership that some of the newer kids on the bloc aren't keen to follow their lead, despite that fact that the greybeards believe (perhaps rightly) that they are owed some deference due to their seniority and past deeds.


Beyond that, I have only one thing more to say..

We shall go on til the end. We shall fight in Tama. We shall fight on the stargates and in the complexes. We shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength amongst the stars, we shall defend our system, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the stations, we shall fight on the moons, we shall fight in the belts and on the planets, we shall fight upon the link Tengus in the very depths of space; we shall never surrender. Let us brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves, that if our glorious corporation should endure a thousand years, men will still say, this was their finest hour.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#94 - 2016-05-13 00:56:50 UTC
Grimwood wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:
I have relations with kangaroos

Gross dude



Those Kangaroos were all willing participants.

The Koalas on the otherhand........
May Arethusa
Junction Systems
#95 - 2016-05-13 03:58:27 UTC
Quote:
The Koalas on the otherhand........


Forced themselves and their adorable STDs on you?
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#96 - 2016-05-13 07:02:48 UTC
Dread Operative wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:

Dread Operative wrote:
And would a small smattering (at the time) of Rapid Withdrawal pilots really made the difference against our super wing?
On the field, who knows? In terms of forging strong bonds, absolutely.

But hey, what would rabid friendly-supercap killing lemmings know about things like that?


Nice attempt at character attack, but if you read Reddit, FHC, and any of the interviews I was vehemently outspoken about the incident. Regardless your attempted insult doesn't link with the point your trying to make. Please try again.
You're still in Snuff, so apparently shooting blues isn't too big of a deal for you. Enough to be "vemently outspoken" but not enough to "make a stand" or "do something about it." ?
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#97 - 2016-05-13 07:07:10 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:


From my admittedly limited perspective, this divide seems to be fundamentally about the desire/dream of some of the old Galmil leadership to build Galmil into a supercap wielding, fully escalation capable power bloc capable of going toe to toe with groups like Snuff and SC all the way up the escalation ladder and quickly and regularly forming large end-game doctrine fleets.

Nah it's really about militia corporations permabluing Snuff when they could simply temp-blue them. That way when Snuff hotdrops a militia fleet like what started this soap opera, then you can actually shoot back at them without any restrictions. That's pretty much it.

Hopefully all this militia sexual tension gets released sooner rather than later. But whatever.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#98 - 2016-05-13 07:09:44 UTC
Dread Operative wrote:
Anyhow back to point, seems this war has mostly been fought on the forums and reddit. Please do something for real already.
You've just described every low sec war I've ever been part of. It's clear Snuff refuses to act because last time you war dec'd a Gallente Militia corp you lost half of your corps.
Mabego Tetrimon
Spiritus Draconis
#99 - 2016-05-13 07:42:58 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
...wrote a lot of stuff.......


several miconceptions there, i might enlighten for you:
1. "Regardless, the incident that is being portrayed as a casus belli is a lot of nonsense" - The Nisuwa inccident was the last straw of a story unfoling, not THE casus belli

2. "They just needed a valid reason to feed their grunts." therehave been many reasons before to wardecced/set red your corp, starting with beeing blue to Snuff, that alone is reason enough for me to be red, so really not more reasons needed.
In contraray several groups and individuals holded back their grunts because they wished to work together with u, as ur alliance to GalMil showed, you wanted to work togeterher with others in GalMil. But that cooperation towards the common goal of warzone domination in all aspects was not wished very much for from your side, it seems. Especially your "blue" with one of the greatest threads of the zone clearly shows that.

3. "of some of the old Galmil leadership" let me say you one thing, there is no "Leadership" at all.....there are groups of people who work together and try to decide together and work together on killing stuff so that much is true, but what the rest of GalMil does....no one knows...so no leadership there, that "old leadership" thingiee you alwas talk about that is just bullshit. There are leaders of organisations which work together for a common goal of destroying things and having fun in the process, your corp has been part of that anarchic, democratic chaos and doesnt seem to like it, just say it.

4. If where is a "leadership" that has anything to say, then why only a few groups of GalMil has declared war on you? and then some others like Aideron or Crosis or Lexis corp stay neutral? (which btw is totally respected by the wardeccing corps, no hard words to them whatsoever, its just respected, because they can do what they want, hec i respect, that even in my corp there are ppl who say, **** this bullshit iam not part of it, to which i say, ok, do as you like, mate).....so where ist that "leadership" you endlessly talking about? shouldt it rage on Crosi, or Lexi or ppl not particpating, drop them from fleets, accuse them on forums et al? Where is the "LEADERSHIP" hello?
It really just looks like an excuse from your side, that in your heart you dont want to be part of in the anarchic, chaotic thing what is GalMil at its core, you just dont like it and want some bigger, more organised, more "leaded" organisation like Snuff, which for me is totally fine. But show your true colours there and dont hide and excuse all the time please.

ALUCARD 1208
Digital Ghosts
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#100 - 2016-05-13 07:42:59 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
. They want to build Galmil into something like Snuff or SC to the point where it would be this power bloc within GalMil having free run of the warzone under a protective super umbrella, rather than the other way around. This isn't necessarily a bad dream or objective to work toward long term. But you've got some folks like our Dear Leader (long may he rule) Tek Stalker who don't share this exact vision


Rdraw blued one of those mentioned entitys that does exactly this and for Higher End Content then says Tek didnt share that vison.

my face