Warfare & Tactics

I guess Gallente circle jerk threads aren't what they used to be.

Do you have any wigs?

The plot thickens

Not the first time this has happened...

won't be the last...

best of luck to RDRAW who will certainly have some serious back up.

Way back when Bi-Polar Bears found themselves in a similar position, torn between Gal Mil and increasing closer relationship with Black Rise and Placid PVP and Pirate Corps. It has been mentioned that every corp has the right to choose the "allies" and Bi-Po found that as allies, the likes of Snuff were much better than the Gal Mil as a whole, it happened with Wolfy to and I think to a lesser extent SOTF. Certainly when Bi-Po left Gal Mil (or at least were kicked due to falling faction standings) They kept very close ties with SOTF who remained in Gal Mil (until of course I closed the corp and stolen all the money)

this will always be an issue for corps that want to improve and become stronger and could be a natural evolution for this type of corp.

The very nature of FW is to develop the PVP skills of a corp in a generally safer eviroment, than perhaps Null Sec. As I said, this is not the first time, nor the last time something like this will happen.

Having recently returned to Eve after a 18 month break, I can not comment on the politics of this war and even if I did, i would not do so. What I can say, is RDRAW are a solid group of players, with a strong focus on PvP.

I will say to call is a Civil War is laughable, no offensive to Gal Mil, but a war suggests both sides stand a chance of winning...

My honest opinion is this war will bring unwanted focus for RDRAW's allies on the Gal Mil and if they have any sense at all, it will be rapidly withdrawn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MWZxRk_OL0

It's a video game, I don't get mad, I get drunk and laugh my ass off. But this is an outright lie and being called out as such.

Not everyone is as salty as you Roy, this war will be amazing and we/me are looking forward to it.

One point that tends to get missed in the rabblerabble of who awoxed which alt when, is that RDRAW essentially was able to reap the rewards of being supported by mainline GalMil corps in their FW objectives - while teaming up with our main opponents in non-FW content. Since mainline GalMil corps have not had much competition in terms of FW objectives, for the most part we've turned our eyes to getting GudFites however we can.

The distraction of having to deal with RDRAW playing both sides in a way has been causing tension for a long, long time. While the latest bit of he said she said was the proverbial straw, in a lot of ways RDRAW needs to pick a side and stick with it.

Noone in mainline Northern GalMil would mind at all if RDRAW dropped their ties to SNUFF, and we'd happily welcome them back into the fold - Tek isn't all that much more difficult to deal with than some other past and present GalMil personalities. We'd similarly be fine with them dropping militia and joining SNUFF officially - CQB did it, and while PERUNGA had a massive hardon for GalMil aside from him being a total douche about it we weren't too salty about it.

This wishy washy stay in the middle crap? That's not sustainable.

It's working for them, other people seem to have the problem.

I love how Roy tries to be all sanctimonious about what a great transgression it is to team up with an "enemy of the gallente militia" and talks about how they fought so hard against the Caldari and that our dealings with Snuff somehow cheapens that...

and yet they do this.

http://imgur.com/Xjl7HMr

Sit outside our station in a happy mixed fleet with Caldari militia pilots.

I don't care if you want to team up with people to try to kill us... but don't try to take some moral high ground about how we've somehow betrayed the militia by doing things totally unrelated to faction warfare with a pirate group - when you run Caldari alts to plex for the opposition and combine fleets with CalMil to try to shoot us. (By the way, you're gonna need to bring more next time you try to camp our station... I didn't even need to reload before you were all dead. But maybe it's because we upshipped you with our 2.5 mil shitfit catalysts, lol.)

Grow a pair and just admit that you don't like us and want to shoot us.

I love flying with the guys from GalMil. Great bunch of dude and some very good pilots. Heck, I'll have fun shooting them and getting shot by them during this war. It's all good. But stop with the preachy BS. it's just silly.

yeah Snuff not having a problem with that mingling i guess......you are known to take advantage out of shooting blues, betraying people, breaking your word, whenever it seems to the advandtage of your corp, now you try to teach your ways to your most loved allies. Good work.

This proves how disconnected you are to the entire FW idea. When null sec entities would come down into FW space in the past, often -- even during the middle of a fist fight -- a ceasefire is called to oust non-fw groups out of this space. Because it's FW space, plain and simple. How disjointed. You are full of justifications yourselves for what is really a truce with snuff that displaced your fear of snuff. "But they give us money!" What you are getting is crumbs and you can do much better. Gallente honor their cease-fires until non-FW entities are dealt with, then a lull of time permitted before we resume shooting each others faces. I can't say the same for Snuff.

3 years of stale diplomacy you say. I do remember the time RDRAW filled in and took residence in Fliet, along with Aideron Robotics. You had your own comms. Aider had their own comms. Gailmil pilots (I was one among many) that tried to swing between them all. There was never really a problem. Lack of integration or interrelationship forming was leadership from many corporations censoring or prohibiting hopping comms because pilots were too sensitive to criticism. What a damn shame. I do remember too the Oto and Has campaign, which RDRAW began and were the first to give up on. Yet you still think you've done everything on your own. That was the beginning of the bitterness in many.