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There used to be a camera zoom that was done by holding down control and left and right mouse buttons held while dragging.. I'm not sure the proper name for that zoom.. but that seems to no longer work, will functionality be added back eventually?

It doesn't work in station either... it used to work everywhere. I used to be able to zoom really close in and really far out with that. Doesn't even work now when new camera is turned off in the settings...

Thank you for the response CCP Lebowski.

My response to that would be simple. It is a game. We are limited by that factor. Knowing when people are online or not cannot be replaced by other mechanics. Did he cloak in WH, jump or log off? Do I sit here and wait for him for hours? Do I shut down my corp pve activities because the 10 man corp of alts wardecced us and we can't afford scouts everywhere to sit in each ones location? Do we just sit in PvP ships all day waiting for them to show up? Did that duo I am chasing jump through the next gate or did they log off? Should I drop probes and scan for ships or keep going? Should I just spend all day traveling system to system checking if the targets I'm hunting are logged in there?

All of this not even considering how limited and ineffective locator agents are for finding more than one player at a time.

And regarding buddy list, I get that some people rely on out of game chat or are so anti social that their buddy list is small enough to ensure that everyone is watchlisted back. I believe many more people have many buddies that don't have them added back. It just creates a huge barried to interacting.

As I said, I'm all for interesting choices. I supported looking into overhauling clone grades, and Intel gathering. I assumed you wanted to develop both into interesting gameplay, not simply remove their functionality.


If you completely refuse the idea of bringing back the watchlist at least consider adding an option to show your status to all. It will have to be an annoying thing we will have to tell everyone to do like removing CSPA but it will be better than nothing.

Hey how do I shut off the weird Gong sound?

How does something like that "Gong"/"Boing" noise even make it to release?

How do you have a full team of developers and testers and still have it reach the live server?

What is the point of having all those paid employees if either A) you're not going to listen to them when they say it's not a good feature or B) you go ahead and add it without asking for their feedback, or considering how the community might react?

There are times I seriously want to know who is behind some of these "features", more rightly labeled "gimmicks" by the community. I hope whoever came with this idea is hugging their knees under their desk, praying they don't get fired, begging not to get put on the new Hello Kitty App project.

It wouldn't surprise me if this was another Fozzie debacle - he already has us playing Wack-a-Node; now he's trying to add sound effects to create some kind of sick space joke?

In space *gong* no one *gong* can hear *gong* you *gong* scream *gong gong gong*

Since I saw a post directing pipe to this forum thread about the camera I will repeat what I posted on issues

I appreciate all the work and effort put into the new camera,but now the camera is even more broke than previous. It's what I imagine the pov of a lasso being thrown is. When I go to warp to something the camera spins around my ship nonstop until I warp. Then it jams into place.

It's awful to watch.

Please tell me you did not already give away your stuff?

Not only is this wrong as you could silence it (along with a few other interface sounds that honestly did not do to much), but you have missed where they are disabling the gong tomorrow.

As for the rest of your list, let's address that:

- Irritating needless game changes - Irritating for you but not for others. Your problems are not everyone else's problems. There are some questionable changes that CCP makes (such as the insanely high tax changes), but in the end, they are making the changes because a change is needed and this is how they chose to do it.

- blindside balancing - Not sure how any of the balancing is "blindsiding" as they are announce well in advance and have honestly been good and needed. We can debate the need for module tiericide, but something needed to be done if they wanted each mod to have some use.

- time wasted looking for someone not even online - If you are talking about a group of friends or contacts, start a chat channel and invite them. Tells you if they are on or not. Or, tell them to add you as well so you both know if it is that important.

- time wasted avoiding someone not online - As opposed to logging it, seeing they are online, and not doing anything anyways since they are? Either way, your game changes. Outside of wormholes, you still have local to tell if a threat is there, and wormholes are suppose to be dangerous anyways.

gong sounds like hells bells:)

A suggestion: Have the watch list at least show me when a watched person is in the same system, even without their consent. That is, I get informed when they are in the local list. That way it will not show me any information I do not already have, it just saves me the trouble of looking through the local list over and over. After all, I have a computer, it should be able to do such mundane tasks for me while I make actual decisions.

Please allow us to turn off that annoying BONG

Very simple. Allow players to toggle their online status notification so they can choose to hide it to non buddies, rather than hide it for everyone but buddies.

If some pilots are concerned to display their online status, then go bother them and leave the other players alone. Keep the status visible unless actively hidden, not passively hidden forever if the other player is unsubscribed and can't buddy you back.

*I* don't have any security concern about MY online status, so why should *I* be forced to do ANYTHING to un-hide it?

Now you have effectively cut me from every person who left the game and didn't buddylisted me (or my alts!) for whatever reason. They may come and go away without I ever noticing nor knowing.

And just FYI, It feels stupid to see people in my private chat channel and they're displayed as "offline"(!) because they don't have buddylisted this or that of my alts...