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Hon chholo
Black Market Peso Exchange
#181 - 2016-03-10 04:56:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Hon chholo
Who the hell even came up with the idea of the new kill notification 'gong' and flashy cross? This is about obnoxious as it gets and reminds me of some old school snes sound effect.

Can someone explain to me how this fits into the context of Eve Online anyway?


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Tbh when i posted this i was going off johnnypew video, after an hour of hands on experience this feels like a troll job ccp,and is even worst than watching the video. April fools is still weeks away, wtf is this?Ive actually laughed several times at how bad this is. How could anyone in the staff of ccp have come up with this and how did this get approval of anyone else?

This is is the sound effect/icon flash of an 80's arcade game, reminds me of starting a round of mortal combat or something.

And again how does this 'dong' fit into the context of eve online? A kill notification is understandable, as a 'tick' but what is this 'dong'?
Skipper Riddles
Ivory Vanguard
#182 - 2016-03-10 05:02:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Skipper Riddles
Well after playing for a while tonight only one thing seems to keep repeating in my head. Why did I not wait till after this update to renew my subscription...

I could have just as well given CCP 4-6 months to correct what they have done here. Then renewed.

It isn't that I cannot accept change. It is however that I cannot accept ridiculous changes. I'm thinking you have put the fate of EvE Online in the hands of the DUST 514 developers or something crazy like that.
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#183 - 2016-03-10 05:03:47 UTC
This is AWESOME!

Great job CCP. I held off trying the new camera again until I figured it'd be in a somewhat usable state. And I admit I quite like it. It has all the functionality the old one had, plus it's snappier yet smoother at the same time. (still not using the new DScan and map though. Maybe I'll give it another whirl some day).

Great tiercide/rebalancing pass as well; I like every single modification you made, and 99% of my ships still fit to boot! Although ... silently replacing my ECCM with SeBoes yet without the ECCM script? Naughty naughty.

"Bong" is funny as hell; though word has it that sound also plays on PvE? My gut feeling tells me that'd get old real quick.

Agh. Details. Bottom line: excellent update lads, most exquisite. Can't wait to get my hands on a Grappler! o7
Malleus Raven
ElitistOps
Deepwater Hooligans
#184 - 2016-03-10 05:33:20 UTC
PLEASE either remove Gong noise for death of locked target or make it a seperate volume control. I can't even...
Everett Kale
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#185 - 2016-03-10 05:36:07 UTC
The gong noise seriously has to go seriously. makes PvEing impossible
Jacob Sabezan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#186 - 2016-03-10 05:44:34 UTC
I do not understand the Gong noise. why was it added? it is unbearable when you want/need to hear the other UI noises.
Hon chholo
Black Market Peso Exchange
#187 - 2016-03-10 05:53:11 UTC
somebody plz remix this at once, i know the eve community can pull this off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oai1V7kaFBk


dongdadongdongdong


XD
Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
Citizen's Star Republic
#188 - 2016-03-10 05:56:13 UTC
Well no mission running yet...in the belts havent noticed this gong sound.

However i did notice, that after turning the new camera off...AGAIN that my headache i was getting went away, the wiplash effect of tracking, and the zoom-rezoom thing of targeting stuff just sucks. not too mention the panning of the camera is slow and clumsy feeling....where the old camera is smooth, speedy, and useable.
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#189 - 2016-03-10 05:59:57 UTC
You tried to tweak the camera? When disabling several options (like ... all of them) and hitting SHIFT-C (for tracking), and making the default setting a little "Stiff" it works like a charm!
Hedgehog Mangeiri
RED HOT Sector
Siberian Squads
#190 - 2016-03-10 06:18:04 UTC
Hi! What's happened to light missles? Now they deal 75 dmg instead of 200-300 with the same fit. 4 lvl mission, guristas pirate's BS, gila, 4 rapid LML scourge missles.
Jeven HouseBenyo
Vanity Thy Name Is
#191 - 2016-03-10 06:19:44 UTC
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
You tried to tweak the camera? When disabling several options (like ... all of them) and hitting SHIFT-C (for tracking), and making the default setting a little "Stiff" it works like a charm!


I have a lot of trouble taking seriously any option for graphics labelled 'Stiff' 'Tight' 'Snug' or 'Rigid'.

There has got to be a better word in someone's vocabulary for this setting's slider 'ends'.

How about letting us keep the old camera as a working option? If we have choices for Scanning and Probe option, a choice in Map, why cancel having choice with the camera? An extra month tacked on to the old camera before it's deleted is not enough time for the new one to be ready for full play primetime. Needs a LOT more alteration before it's as Functional and Efficient as the old one.

BONG!

Idea!

>Jeven

Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel.

'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises.

Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup.

Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P

No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.
OKISAD
Albireo Solem
Pandemic Horde
#192 - 2016-03-10 07:11:39 UTC
So.. is time to quit eve forever...is not our game we love to play all day long.. now is a program full whit bugs and useless *****..CCP is a bad gost now or get poded and lost all implants?
Sullen Bear
Arctic Spirit
#193 - 2016-03-10 07:12:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Sullen Bear
New kill animation and especially sound are worsest graphic change since gate jumping effect. Every time I jump through gate I must close my eyes. EVERY TIME. Now you want me to close eyes every time I kill or destroy something? And disable sound ofcourse?
Trust me, playing EVE with closed eyes and ears is not exciting. But you really left no choice... except play something different ofcourse.
Please, remove this flashing trash and sound ASAP. It really unacceptable.
About watch list - by disabling it you simple remove from EVE some professions and gameplay tactics. What you add instead? Grathic trash? If you remove some good gameplay and not add something instead - then it is not right decision. Before yesterday I use watch list every day and I don't understand what was wrong with it.
Regan Rotineque
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#194 - 2016-03-10 07:22:30 UTC
Adding another (gong) ... voice to (gong) .. request (gong) ... the removal (gong) of the new (gong) ... destruction (gong gong) sound......


really CCP ?


really?
Tyranis Marcus
Bloody Heathens
#195 - 2016-03-10 07:24:42 UTC
Niko Lorenzio wrote:
From the winter Summit Minutes:

CSM Attendees
• Sugar Kyle
• Corbexx
• Gorski Car
• Jayne Fillon
• Chance Ravinne
• Steve Ronuken

Remote Attendees
• Cagali Cagali
• Endie
• Mike Azariah
• Sort Dragon

"Sort Dragon brought up the topic of the upcoming watch-list changes. CCP Fozzie
asked if there was anyone that had any reasons to not go ahead with the change.
Some points where people were using the watch list to help hunt targets in
wormholes or in super capitals, some people used them to keep an eye on highsec
war participants. No one thought these were use cases that were necessary to
maintain. A point was raised of making the notifications you can send when
adding a contact mention whether you were added to their watch list. Steve also
brought up the idea of being able to mark yourself public, so that anyone can
watch list you and see your status without you having to add them. Chance
brought up the point of renaming the watch list due to it having the same name
as the fleet watch list. Several suggestions were made for the name, with some
being less appropriate than others."


Fire them all! Every last one!

Do not run. We are your friends.
Cordo Draken
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
#196 - 2016-03-10 07:25:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Cordo Draken
Just want to take a moment to explain to you CCP, how much you suck for the CPU increases! All those tight fit ship, especially frigates just got the major screw over. It's another big kick in the ass for us long timers who have tons of ships that now need to be refitted. You really do hate your clients sometimes don't you? And you wonder why numbers shrink. It's because of stupid Crap like this that is just irritating. Renaming of mods that jack EFT fits.

Oh yeah, and the Buddy List now? Good grief, Do you guys even understand your own game and how people do stuff? What idiot thought of that idea!? so much for Hard Core Eve. Just another step in the wrong direction. And just more reasons to just finally walk.

Whomever said, "You only get one shot to make a good impression," was utterly wrong. I've made plenty of great impressions with my Autocannons 
Tig Shnifer
Doomheim
#197 - 2016-03-10 07:26:33 UTC
Vic Vorlon wrote:
Other issue: I'm one of the few people who had the station environment turned off, to keep my laptop fan quiet while I'm in station. I understand why the feature was removed, but I'm sad to see it go. I hope you'll find a way to make better use of the station environment besides just spinning the ship. It should be functional in some way: cargo access or ship fitting, perhaps.


I LOVED static station. I could do all the admin stuff or just chat without my gpu spinning up for no reason. It spun up when I undocked, i.e. when I actually needed it.
I'm pretty certain most station traders do the same.

Who can I invoice for my now-increased electric usage?

As for the gong, doesn't bother me I've had eve muted since month 2, but CCP I'm wondering how many times you are going to keep pulling this crap. The whole dscan-animation thing was just last patch. Please stop changing basic things for the sake of changing things. Or at least tell someone you have so you can get feedback before patch day rather than need a ton of replies after.

On a positive note thanks for not force-removing the old camera yet.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#198 - 2016-03-10 07:28:41 UTC
I know Im not the only one. Station load environment and closing of hangars upon ship changes for starters!!

With the tactical view Id love continuance of zoom level while docking/undocking or even entering warping while in the mode.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Idame Isqua
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#199 - 2016-03-10 07:29:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Idame Isqua
"The 'Load Station Environment' toggle has been removed from the graphic settings inside the settings menu."

GET RKD CCP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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**** this **** that I refuse to login until this retardedness is fixed.

Otherwise I can't really comment

Though the target painter changes sound ****

And I have no confidence the camera (which apparently we now have to use) is now magically usable for PvP.

And I hate PvE

Therefore I guess I've reached eves end game, and can join the significant ranks of players who login purely to make eve ****.

Also maybe you should poll how many people use the newish notification system, I used it once but Ive turned it off and never looked back.

Ok I logged on

New camera is good but the camera takes weird indirect paths that make me motion sick.
Also unlike the old camera, if I warp in a straight line past an object when I'm getting close to moving a right angle dscan isnt working right and returning zero results, which is very very bad.

Removing the static station option was a major brain fart though, so I'm off and feeling glad I topped up my steam library recently.

Let me know when eve online is out of beta mmmmmmm k?
Major Natalya
Systems Alliance
#200 - 2016-03-10 07:59:18 UTC
Sullen Bear wrote:
New kill animation and especially sound are worsest graphic change since gate jumping effect. Every time I jump through gate I must close my eyes. EVERY TIME. Now you want me to close eyes every time I kill or destroy something? And disable sound ofcourse?
Trust me, playing EVE with closed eyes and ears is not exciting. But you really left no choice... except play something different ofcourse.
Please, remove this flashing trash and sound ASAP. It really unacceptable.
About watch list - by disabling it you simple remove from EVE some professions and gameplay tactics. What you add instead? Grathic trash? If you remove some good gameplay and not add something instead - then it is not right decision. Before yesterday I use watch list every day and I don't understand what was wrong with it.



Yea, I close my eyes too so as not to see the warp tunnel when jumping through gates.

Considering the frequency that we have to jump through gates, the warp tunnel effect, which still has that sticky glitch in the middle of it, and the sound effect that accompanies it, is a constant energy-sucking irritation. Like banging your head on the wall every time you jump through a gate.

Make jumping gates smooth and painless please, we do it all day long.

And get rid of the kill animation and gong. "This is not Hello Kitty Adventure Island"