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HoleySheet1
Deep-Fried Prawns with Lemon
#41 - 2016-03-08 12:50:37 UTC  |  Edited by: HoleySheet1
Saeger1737 wrote:
HoleySheet1 wrote:
HoleySheet1 wrote:
Never needed a watch list. But I expect a raging torrent of "merc" tears. Carry on.
Oh look
You're being as irrelevant as Anya and Nitshe
Gg


Here's a tissue. I got plenty.

Can't wait to see how much you cry if they ever take sensor boosters away. What will you fit in 3 slots?


Uh...your mom?

Seriously though, many "merc" groups adopted my doctrine of high scan resolution. I get the ship, and then the pod. Anything less is failure imo. I'm just looking for some appreciation from the noobs I ascended to new heights through my tutelage. My kill record will make me impervious to irrelevance. Veiled jealousy is a constant theme I have to deal with, it entertains me.

What I'm doing is something challenging. I am destroying ships of a higher class size and then I take their pod. Anya and nitsche are human failscades and couldn't pvp their way out of wet tissue paper. Truth hurts, I know.

Emperor of Amarr
King of Jita
Scourge of the spaceplanes
-Holeysheet1

Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better.
Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#42 - 2016-03-08 15:35:47 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
HoleySheet1 wrote:
More stupid ideas from the great CCraP. Who comes up with this nonsense?

I don't know the details as I'm not playing eve as much, but it sounds like some schmercs are gonna have trouble. Absolutely tantalizing and most hilarious. All "mercs" will be consigned to hub hugging and camping pipes. Wait....nothing has changed. Rofl.



Use a locator agent, get an eve mail on where a target is.

Use an alt scout to go to the location, see if target is in local.

Run locator again if the target isn't in local. If they are listed as in system, you know they are offline.

It really isn't much different than if you knew your target but not their location.

The only unknown I can think of is what happens to our current list. Will we be spammed with notifications of people who already had us watch listed or will it just be cleared With us starting anew.



You are so right , but the word lazy comes to mind , why would they Hub hug in the 1st place. I still think its a crime of some of them to be called Mercs Big smile

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Xorphix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#43 - 2016-03-08 15:54:01 UTC
HoleySheet1 wrote:
Seriously though, many "merc" groups adopted my doctrine of high scan resolution. I get the ship, and then the pod.


Now you're just baiting for somebody to start on you. Lol Naughty naughty.
Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#44 - 2016-03-08 16:21:42 UTC
Ozzie Udan wrote:
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:

Use a locator agent, get an eve mail on where a target is.

Use an alt scout to go to the location, see if target is in local.

Run locator again if the target isn't in local. If they are listed as in system, you know they are offline.

It really isn't much different than if you knew your target but not their location.

The only unknown I can think of is what happens to our current list. Will we be spammed with notifications of people who already had us watch listed or will it just be cleared With us starting anew.



You are so right , but the word lazy comes to mind , why would they Hub hug in the 1st place. I still think its a crime of some of them to be called Mercs Big smile

You have to think bigger..
Lets say as a merc you get a contract against an alliance with 100-200 members spread around in empire.
From experience I would say maybe 10% of those members are active during a wardec.
To find those guys online using the proposed method from Lady Ayeipsia would be a HUGE task.
And ineffective..

A lvl4 locates gives you location of the target when you ran the locate agent
You get the answer back 10 min later, so if he was moving he is long gone by the time you get there.
Then theres the agent cooldown before you can run another locate. (another 20min on top)
Ofc you have multiple agents.. But you also have to move from agent to agent, this takes time.
Oh.. and dont forget the cost.. 250k every locate you run.

Basicly you will have more chance of finding an online target sitting in a hub or pipe waiting for him to pass you.
Its not about beeing lazy (well for some it is) but more using the time more efficient. Both for us and our employers.
HoleySheet1
Deep-Fried Prawns with Lemon
#45 - 2016-03-08 16:38:39 UTC
Xorphix wrote:
HoleySheet1 wrote:
Seriously though, many "merc" groups adopted my doctrine of high scan resolution. I get the ship, and then the pod.


Now you're just baiting for somebody to start on you. Lol Naughty naughty.


Do it to it. YEEHAW

Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#46 - 2016-03-08 16:54:16 UTC
Lord Razpataz wrote:
Ozzie Udan wrote:
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:

Use a locator agent, get an eve mail on where a target is.

Use an alt scout to go to the location, see if target is in local.

Run locator again if the target isn't in local. If they are listed as in system, you know they are offline.

It really isn't much different than if you knew your target but not their location.

The only unknown I can think of is what happens to our current list. Will we be spammed with notifications of people who already had us watch listed or will it just be cleared With us starting anew.



You are so right , but the word lazy comes to mind , why would they Hub hug in the 1st place. I still think its a crime of some of them to be called Mercs Big smile

You have to think bigger..
Lets say as a merc you get a contract against an alliance with 100-200 members spread around in empire.
From experience I would say maybe 10% of those members are active during a wardec.
To find those guys online using the proposed method from Lady Ayeipsia would be a HUGE task.
And ineffective..

A lvl4 locates gives you location of the target when you ran the locate agent
You get the answer back 10 min later, so if he was moving he is long gone by the time you get there.
Then theres the agent cooldown before you can run another locate. (another 20min on top)
Ofc you have multiple agents.. But you also have to move from agent to agent, this takes time.
Oh.. and dont forget the cost.. 250k every locate you run.

Basicly you will have more chance of finding an online target sitting in a hub or pipe waiting for him to pass you.
Its not about beeing lazy (well for some it is) but more using the time more efficient. Both for us and our employers.


I totally agree.
When I was in Black Hydra we used to do two things:
1-run locates and try to snatched targets, and when we were done doing that (with or without a kill),
2-we'd go back to Uedama to catch people on gates, and killing easily 3-4 times more..

Sometimes it's better to sit and wait than to go out and hunt
But Ozzie wouldn't know, he never merc'd

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#47 - 2016-03-08 17:25:50 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Lord Razpataz wrote:
Ozzie Udan wrote:
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:

Use a locator agent, get an eve mail on where a target is.

Use an alt scout to go to the location, see if target is in local.

Run locator again if the target isn't in local. If they are listed as in system, you know they are offline.

It really isn't much different than if you knew your target but not their location.

The only unknown I can think of is what happens to our current list. Will we be spammed with notifications of people who already had us watch listed or will it just be cleared With us starting anew.



You are so right , but the word lazy comes to mind , why would they Hub hug in the 1st place. I still think its a crime of some of them to be called Mercs Big smile

You have to think bigger..
Lets say as a merc you get a contract against an alliance with 100-200 members spread around in empire.
From experience I would say maybe 10% of those members are active during a wardec.
To find those guys online using the proposed method from Lady Ayeipsia would be a HUGE task.
And ineffective..

A lvl4 locates gives you location of the target when you ran the locate agent
You get the answer back 10 min later, so if he was moving he is long gone by the time you get there.
Then theres the agent cooldown before you can run another locate. (another 20min on top)
Ofc you have multiple agents.. But you also have to move from agent to agent, this takes time.
Oh.. and dont forget the cost.. 250k every locate you run.

Basicly you will have more chance of finding an online target sitting in a hub or pipe waiting for him to pass you.
Its not about beeing lazy (well for some it is) but more using the time more efficient. Both for us and our employers.


I totally agree.
When I was in Black Hydra we used to do two things:
1-run locates and try to snatched targets, and when we were done doing that (with or without a kill),
2-we'd go back to Uedama to catch people on gates, and killing easily 3-4 times more..

Sometimes it's better to sit and wait than to go out and hunt
But Ozzie wouldn't know, he never merc'd

Well yeah, that would have been more efficient use of time for black hydra,
the point here though is , now it's going to require a non-reasonable amount of effort to do anything other than go for the low hanging fruit.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2016-03-08 17:32:47 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Lord Razpataz wrote:
[quote=Ozzie Udan][quote=Lady Ayeipsia]





I totally agree.
When I was in Black Hydra we used to do two things:
1-run locates and try to snatched targets, and when we were done doing that (with or without a kill),
2-we'd go back to Uedama to catch people on gates, and killing easily 3-4 times more..

Sometimes it's better to sit and wait than to go out and hunt
But Ozzie wouldn't know, he never merc'd



How wrong you are but oh i do forget your very new , or is your corp History wrong , can't see it very well using my phone

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#49 - 2016-03-08 17:50:28 UTC
Ozzie Udan wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Lord Razpataz wrote:
[quote=Ozzie Udan][quote=Lady Ayeipsia]





I totally agree.
When I was in Black Hydra we used to do two things:
1-run locates and try to snatched targets, and when we were done doing that (with or without a kill),
2-we'd go back to Uedama to catch people on gates, and killing easily 3-4 times more..

Sometimes it's better to sit and wait than to go out and hunt
But Ozzie wouldn't know, he never merc'd



How wrong you are but oh i do forget your very new , or is your corp History wrong , can't see it very well using my phone

Lol very new
Lol please
Although you probably spent more time in an npc corp than I spent time in any player corp lmao

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#50 - 2016-03-08 18:54:01 UTC
HoleySheet1 wrote:
Never needed a watch list.

All you had to do was watch the undock grid.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#51 - 2016-03-08 19:24:59 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
HoleySheet1 wrote:
Never needed a watch list.

All you had to do was watch the undock grid.

To be fair to him , he does also have to keep an eye on the aggression timer.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2016-03-08 19:28:12 UTC
1. Go to location agent

2. Order agent to find guy

3. Agent says that "scumbag" is in Hatakani system blah blah blah

4. Go to system

5. He is not there because he is logged off
Johnny Punisher
Avanto
Hole Control
#53 - 2016-03-08 19:30:18 UTC
HoleySheet1 wrote:


Emperor of Amarr
King of Jita
Scourge of the spaceplanes
-Holeysheet1


Haha are you some highsec baddie? :D
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#54 - 2016-03-08 19:35:32 UTC
Droidster wrote:
1. Go to location agent

2. Order agent to find guy

3. Agent says that "scumbag" is in Hatakani system blah blah blah

4. Go to system

5. He is not there because he is logged off

Or he was moving Blink

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#55 - 2016-03-08 19:36:32 UTC
Johnny Punisher wrote:
HoleySheet1 wrote:


Emperor of Amarr
King of Jita
Scourge of the spaceplanes
-Holeysheet1


Haha are you some highsec baddie? :D

Nah just some publord with a big ego

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#56 - 2016-03-09 08:19:31 UTC
Droidster wrote:
1. Go to location agent

2. Order agent to find guy

3. Agent says that "scumbag" is in Hatakani system blah blah blah

4. Go to system

5. He is not there because he is logged off
Or jumped in the system next door. Try doing that with a 100 men target. The removal of watch lists will **** up mercs who hunt, will let the total number of wars increase and will have the targets dock all week, as they cant see when the evil mercs are online.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2016-03-09 09:00:04 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Droidster wrote:
1. Go to location agent

2. Order agent to find guy

3. Agent says that "scumbag" is in Hatakani system blah blah blah

4. Go to system

5. He is not there because he is logged off
Or jumped in the system next door. Try doing that with a 100 men target. The removal of watch lists will **** up mercs who hunt, will let the total number of wars increase and will have the targets dock all week, as they cant see when the evil mercs are online.


I think it may make eve more dangerous.

it will definitely make wars between mercs in HS more interesting.

and ofcourse not knowing when enemy supers are logging in will hopefully Spring a few surprises in itself.

we will all have to adapt or die Big smile

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority
Mortlake
Republic Military School
#58 - 2016-03-09 09:56:00 UTC
None of this matters. I'm already in your mining fleet calling targets.

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#59 - 2016-03-09 12:44:51 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Hey I like you, You a cool dude.

But don't tell me you're one those "The one true PVP is out Nullsec" Kinda dudes.


Nope, I PvP mostly in Lowsec.

Dom Arkaral wrote:
Post on your main or gtfo
Ty
C&P


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Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#60 - 2016-03-09 14:35:53 UTC
Mortlake wrote:
None of this matters. I'm already in your mining fleet calling targets.

Well, I know the Rattlesnake we caught this morning sure as hell didn't see us coming.

In the bushes.
With an erection.
You don't see it coming.
But I do...

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.