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No, there is an advantage, but it's linked to being able to field T3 fleets. With, or without skill injectors, there's no difference between you and your enemy fleet; both of you will have the same methods available to get into them T3 ships OR their counters.

You're arguing against making it easier to get into a ship (titans, for example), in an age where we're seeing BLOBs of these ships (titans, for example, it's not like they're unique and rare nowadays), and guess what, CCP has done it once (made it easier) already (they drastically reduced the skill prerequisites, esp. for weapons, for capitals and supers).

CCP should complain: With skill trading, we're going to go from "I think this fleet doctrine will be awesome." to "Crap, everybody has copied my fleet doctrine" in less than a day, in theory. And then CCP will have its hands full trying to nerf, DAILY instead of every few months, whatever overpowered fleet doctrine or tactic we come up with.

No, he with the most intelligence to come up with winning fleet doctrines daily, wins. The script kiddies can pay through their noses to try to copy, filling the target environment with tougher, but still totally killable ships (new daily winning fleet doctrine trumps script kiddy doctrine).

Sorry that you won't have PL vs. Brave Newbies style fights to pad your killboard anymore, and now have to work at killing tougher ships, it's so sad.

EDIT: TQ becomes a test server environment, where we all can get instant access to even the biggest ships, without the effort. The game becomes an alliance tournament style "may the most cunning win" instead of the current "you have to wait 4 years to get past the cockblocks to whatever version of "fun" you're thinking of."

King Aires, you're just worried the other kid will have more fun than you even though you both have the same ball.

Buying characters and buying SP couldn't be different from each other. If you can't see that then we will all be better off without your posts.

Scamming Character Bazaar will still be prohibited.


This thread is funny, in a way. We're arguing about 1,500 - 3,000 alliance pilots injecting titan skills and stomping unfairly about nullsec, and in the meantime 33,000 high-sec players will:

- inject max Trade skills to reduce broker fees and transaction taxes
- inject max Social skills to increase the amount of ISK that enters the game from agent missions
- inject max mining, refinery, and PI Command Center Upgrades skills, for instant Orca, Hulk with T2 crystals, and max PI
- inject max production skills, instantly expanding their capabilities from 1-2 production line to 10, with researched blueprints
- inject max invention skills for better / easier chances at T2

We'll get more ISK entering the economy, and cheaper production of all the toys that the 1,500 - 3,000 like to play with. There better be huge wars starting, like, right away, to offset all this. Hopefully the 3,000 will want to take out their new toys for a spin, like right away.

Criticizes thread for being toxic. Says something toxic.

I'm sure CCP know exactly how much the extractors will cost, they're just not telling us.

I would be surprised if they did.

Anyway, I am out. Forums bore me.

If this was about making EVE a better game by adding purchasable SP CCP would never have put it as an aurum real cash only item. It would have been available in game through ratting/manufacturing/exploration etc to subscribing players who already pay CCP more than most other games on a monthly basis. If they multi box they pay an extreme amount more.

This is about MONEY. They are adding CASH extractors to the game pure and simple and thumbing their nose at every paying subscriber in EVE and at the same time destroying one of the most ingenious gaming mechanics ever created.

This is about fleecing EVE... a profitable and well made game for every nickel and funneling that money into a succession of unwanted and doomed to fail pet projects that are supposed to make the company viable in the future.

To bad CCP has no idea it is a one trick pony. Their lack of success with every other game they have made for over 10 years should have taught them that. Their only hope is to stop fleecing eve and let it thrive but we know that is not going to happen. there is only one result from this kind of behavior from a developer.

There comes a point where you begin to understand that the people who originally made EVE are probably long gone and well out of the picture. Pretenders to the throne have claimed lordship and hold nothing sacred. They are breaking all the rules the EVE universe was built upon and fleecing their customers with every type of disguised double billing scheme they can think of.


Anticipation of a reward is always a longer lasting incentive than the reward itself and the people who originally made eve knew this. It is why EVE has lasted this long.

The retention numbers of players with max Level 5 skills and capitals etc are but a fraction of the paying subscribed player base of eve. They got all the rewards available and found the rewards were not even close to as enjoyable as the journey and anticipation to get those rewards.

so go ahead CCP. Turn a 40,000 player base into a 1000 player base after you give everyone access to everything.

You will think this gold rush of CASH EXTRACTION is unending right up to the point that in no time at all all those people you fleeced find they wasted their time as the game was just as fun or more fun with low SP than it was with high SP and no one has anything to look forward to anymore.

This is pathetic and sad and a total betrayal to everyone who cared anything about this game on so many levels.

will character bazaar be removed when skill trading will be introduced? it will be a sad day