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[MERC] ARCHETYPE

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Jane Galt
The John Galt Express
#1241 - 2016-09-28 10:54:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jane Galt
Natural CloneKiller wrote:
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Just to chime in on all of the elitism going on here. VMG..you DO remember the little fleet we had for that first fort when this war started right..you know, the one you did not show up for. It was the right call. Also, when aggressed in Niarja and was going to lose, you ran off and docked before the fleet arrived. Again, a wise choice. Retreating from a fight you cannot win is not a loss..you do it, we do it..we all do it. What's a loss is trying to fight when you know you can't win..just as you have done as well. So please..enough of the egotistic elitism thinking you "won" a battle because the other side chose wisely not to fight ..just as you do. Keep in mind, the only difference between bravery and stupidity is the outcome. Fighting a fight that's suicide is not bravery, it's stupidity. I know you know this.

There are a lot of VMG members I like..and some who are my friends (bet you didn't know that :) ). The bottom line is, and you know this all too well, you fight when you can and regroup when you can't. It is the way of things and the way of a good strategy. I couldn't care less about the epeen waving or testosterone. A fact is a fact.

There is a lot more I could get into here but I'll spare the readers the BS and myself the arguments of futility from those who won't agree. I will say, however..this did not turn out like you expected did it. You see, Sol has been feeding you BS from the start. Truth is, he really doesn't know..unless ofc we want him to "know".

Let's cut the BS plz. We are both better than that..at least I would hope so. Blink

Also, perhaps try a fight w/o 3 logi per member..it's whole new ball game..then you actually have to fit wisely..rather than shiny and depend on neutrals to keep you alive. But hey, I'm not judging. Smile


Agree. Blue balling is a valid strategy. It drives the opposition mad lol. Nullified and wastes their time. We were just under the impression there was going to be the same number. As our reputation was also on the line something had to be done. In fact a valid strategy for me would be to blue ball all fleet fights and just replace the structure for the clients each time until the fleets dropped in size and then I would smash them.

As for the logi. If you find a vmg pilot without their logi I'll ask them to kindly move on or never repeat. It will always be our way of flying. It enables you to get out if needed or to take a fight you would normally not be able to.

What I don't like is this Jane Galt coming out with lies to either troll or stir the pot.



again, you can't lie about stuff when there's a record. I only commented because of:

Luukje wrote:
Fortizar in Ashab, defended.
Fortizar in Agrallier defended.

WHAT THE **** LADIES. WE HAD A DATE! You finally had ur first chance at actually destroying ur first citadel protected by VMG. All that smacktalking and you give us a no show.
Back to kindergarten for you kids, stay small o/


VMG WINS AGAIN!

P.S. in all seriousness, turn up for a fight already you chickendips.


When someone trash talks us for legit strategies, I will thrash you back.

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#1242 - 2016-09-28 11:25:46 UTC
Jane Galt wrote:
Natural CloneKiller wrote:
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Just to chime in on all of the elitism going on here. VMG..you DO remember the little fleet we had for that first fort when this war started right..you know, the one you did not show up for. It was the right call. Also, when aggressed in Niarja and was going to lose, you ran off and docked before the fleet arrived. Again, a wise choice. Retreating from a fight you cannot win is not a loss..you do it, we do it..we all do it. What's a loss is trying to fight when you know you can't win..just as you have done as well. So please..enough of the egotistic elitism thinking you "won" a battle because the other side chose wisely not to fight ..just as you do. Keep in mind, the only difference between bravery and stupidity is the outcome. Fighting a fight that's suicide is not bravery, it's stupidity. I know you know this.

There are a lot of VMG members I like..and some who are my friends (bet you didn't know that :) ). The bottom line is, and you know this all too well, you fight when you can and regroup when you can't. It is the way of things and the way of a good strategy. I couldn't care less about the epeen waving or testosterone. A fact is a fact.

There is a lot more I could get into here but I'll spare the readers the BS and myself the arguments of futility from those who won't agree. I will say, however..this did not turn out like you expected did it. You see, Sol has been feeding you BS from the start. Truth is, he really doesn't know..unless ofc we want him to "know".

Let's cut the BS plz. We are both better than that..at least I would hope so. Blink

Also, perhaps try a fight w/o 3 logi per member..it's whole new ball game..then you actually have to fit wisely..rather than shiny and depend on neutrals to keep you alive. But hey, I'm not judging. Smile


Agree. Blue balling is a valid strategy. It drives the opposition mad lol. Nullified and wastes their time. We were just under the impression there was going to be the same number. As our reputation was also on the line something had to be done. In fact a valid strategy for me would be to blue ball all fleet fights and just replace the structure for the clients each time until the fleets dropped in size and then I would smash them.

As for the logi. If you find a vmg pilot without their logi I'll ask them to kindly move on or never repeat. It will always be our way of flying. It enables you to get out if needed or to take a fight you would normally not be able to.

What I don't like is this Jane Galt coming out with lies to either troll or stir the pot.



again, you can't lie about stuff when there's a record. I only commented because of:

Luukje wrote:
Fortizar in Ashab, defended.
Fortizar in Agrallier defended.

WHAT THE **** LADIES. WE HAD A DATE! You finally had ur first chance at actually destroying ur first citadel protected by VMG. All that smacktalking and you give us a no show.
Back to kindergarten for you kids, stay small o/


VMG WINS AGAIN!

P.S. in all seriousness, turn up for a fight already you chickendips.


When someone trash talks us for legit strategies, I will thrash you back.


thrash talk? more like laugh at ur misery, SO MUCH smack from you and ur peons last weeks, only to have done all of it for nothing. when you thrashtalk us, and we completely negate all ur work we can laugh all we want :)
Tig3r Styl3
Doomheim
#1243 - 2016-09-28 11:37:37 UTC
Luukje wrote:
Jane Galt wrote:
Natural CloneKiller wrote:
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Just to chime in on all of the elitism going on here. VMG..you DO remember the little fleet we had for that first fort when this war started right..you know, the one you did not show up for. It was the right call. Also, when aggressed in Niarja and was going to lose, you ran off and docked before the fleet arrived. Again, a wise choice. Retreating from a fight you cannot win is not a loss..you do it, we do it..we all do it. What's a loss is trying to fight when you know you can't win..just as you have done as well. So please..enough of the egotistic elitism thinking you "won" a battle because the other side chose wisely not to fight ..just as you do. Keep in mind, the only difference between bravery and stupidity is the outcome. Fighting a fight that's suicide is not bravery, it's stupidity. I know you know this.

There are a lot of VMG members I like..and some who are my friends (bet you didn't know that :) ). The bottom line is, and you know this all too well, you fight when you can and regroup when you can't. It is the way of things and the way of a good strategy. I couldn't care less about the epeen waving or testosterone. A fact is a fact.

There is a lot more I could get into here but I'll spare the readers the BS and myself the arguments of futility from those who won't agree. I will say, however..this did not turn out like you expected did it. You see, Sol has been feeding you BS from the start. Truth is, he really doesn't know..unless ofc we want him to "know".

Let's cut the BS plz. We are both better than that..at least I would hope so. Blink

Also, perhaps try a fight w/o 3 logi per member..it's whole new ball game..then you actually have to fit wisely..rather than shiny and depend on neutrals to keep you alive. But hey, I'm not judging. Smile


Agree. Blue balling is a valid strategy. It drives the opposition mad lol. Nullified and wastes their time. We were just under the impression there was going to be the same number. As our reputation was also on the line something had to be done. In fact a valid strategy for me would be to blue ball all fleet fights and just replace the structure for the clients each time until the fleets dropped in size and then I would smash them.

As for the logi. If you find a vmg pilot without their logi I'll ask them to kindly move on or never repeat. It will always be our way of flying. It enables you to get out if needed or to take a fight you would normally not be able to.

What I don't like is this Jane Galt coming out with lies to either troll or stir the pot.



again, you can't lie about stuff when there's a record. I only commented because of:

Luukje wrote:
Fortizar in Ashab, defended.
Fortizar in Agrallier defended.

WHAT THE **** LADIES. WE HAD A DATE! You finally had ur first chance at actually destroying ur first citadel protected by VMG. All that smacktalking and you give us a no show.
Back to kindergarten for you kids, stay small o/


VMG WINS AGAIN!

P.S. in all seriousness, turn up for a fight already you chickendips.


When someone trash talks us for legit strategies, I will thrash you back.


thrash talk? more like laugh at ur misery, SO MUCH smack from you and ur peons last weeks, only to have done all of it for nothing. when you thrashtalk us, and we completely negate all ur work we can laugh all we want :)


they traped you and now you are mad about this... all this organization stuff was for nothing...hahah.

Selusa Secundus
Beyond Remorse.
#1244 - 2016-09-28 11:38:23 UTC
There is a potential solution to this dilemma, maybe an agreement is made between the two groups here. The trolling, rage, tears and smug trash talk just cause this to unravel when they don't have too. I will be in touch if the talks end poorly.
Jane Galt
The John Galt Express
#1245 - 2016-09-28 12:04:34 UTC
lol we are just having some fun. Forum banter is actually pretty new to me. Pretty amusing so far though I prefer poignant arguments rather than mindless trash talking.

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Beyond Remorse.
#1246 - 2016-09-28 12:23:54 UTC
Jane Galt wrote:
lol we are just having some fun. Forum banter is actually pretty new to me. Pretty amusing so far though I prefer poignant arguments rather than mindless trash talking.


Likewise, C&P is full of tactful pilots.
Khromius
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#1247 - 2016-09-28 12:59:35 UTC
Tig3r Styl3 wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Natural CloneKiller wrote:


As for the logi. If you find a vmg pilot without their logi I'll ask them to kindly move on or never repeat. It will always be our way of flying. It enables you to get out if needed or to take a fight you would normally not be able to.


you guys are literally the only dudes flying with a 1/3 dps to logi ratio.
it's pretty dumb that you need logi to survive instead of knowledge and skill Roll

edit: grr filters



thats what i am saying..they dont have skills to surivve.. using boost alts, Logis, slave set and think this is a good pvp fight..
every noob corp in low sec could beat this guys. but they are more scared about their pots and their killboard...lolz





HAhahahahahahahaaa.... I love you. Please continue with your dumbassness
Tig3r Styl3
Doomheim
#1248 - 2016-09-28 13:08:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Tig3r Styl3
Khromius wrote:
Tig3r Styl3 wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Natural CloneKiller wrote:


As for the logi. If you find a vmg pilot without their logi I'll ask them to kindly move on or never repeat. It will always be our way of flying. It enables you to get out if needed or to take a fight you would normally not be able to.


you guys are literally the only dudes flying with a 1/3 dps to logi ratio.
it's pretty dumb that you need logi to survive instead of knowledge and skill Roll

edit: grr filters



thats what i am saying..they dont have skills to surivve.. using boost alts, Logis, slave set and think this is a good pvp fight..
every noob corp in low sec could beat this guys. but they are more scared about their pots and their killboard...lolz





HAhahahahahahahaaa.... I love you. Please continue with your dumbassness



A Troll tries to Troll LolLolLol

your long haha showed me how pissed you are... playing safe dont mean you are a good pvper. you are a joke. you and your alliance is just embarrassing
Griever Takkow
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming
BLACKFLAG.
#1249 - 2016-09-28 13:43:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Griever Takkow
Tig3r Styl3 wrote:


your long haha showed me how pissed you are... playing safe dont mean you are a good pvper. you are a joke. you and your alliance is just embarrassing



Oh please you already lack credibility... please learn when to you use "you're" , "you are" and "your"

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Doomheim
#1250 - 2016-09-28 13:51:47 UTC
Griever Takkow wrote:
Tig3r Styl3 wrote:


your long haha showed me how pissed you are... playing safe dont mean you are a good pvper. you are a joke. you and your alliance is just embarrassing



Oh please you already lack credibility... please learn when you use "you're" , "you are" and "your"




ohh sorry i have attention deficit disorder and dyslexia..
are you kidding about people who are sitting in a wheelchair.???
you come into the hell for this EvilEvilEvil
Sister Sloppy-Third Consanguinea
Doomheim
#1251 - 2016-09-28 15:05:25 UTC
Khromius wrote:
If you were in the PL fleet then you'd know that the client, who happens to employ PL as well, pulled the plug on the op. Why did he do this? No idea... Doesn't matter to us as we still got paid anyway. What does this little distraction have to do with you, ATYPE and it's war with VMG? No idea... Doesn't matter to us cause you're still going to have your asses handed to you. Keep up the great work killing your alliance for your own greed. I feel bad the general ATYPE membership having to go through all of this because of you.

If you feel bad about the regular guys of the alliance (which would imply respect), then why do you and some others blanket insult the whole alliance? If you got a beef with some people, take it up to these very players.

Coining stuff like 'Archedykes' or 'Retards' or others calling VMG 'Vaginas' and generally calling names is both childish and will antagonize a wide range of players that don't have anything to do with the actual drama.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#1252 - 2016-09-28 16:52:56 UTC
Sister Sloppy-Third Consanguinea wrote:
Khromius wrote:
If you were in the PL fleet then you'd know that the client, who happens to employ PL as well, pulled the plug on the op. Why did he do this? No idea... Doesn't matter to us as we still got paid anyway. What does this little distraction have to do with you, ATYPE and it's war with VMG? No idea... Doesn't matter to us cause you're still going to have your asses handed to you. Keep up the great work killing your alliance for your own greed. I feel bad the general ATYPE membership having to go through all of this because of you.

If you feel bad about the regular guys of the alliance (which would imply respect), then why do you and some others blanket insult the whole alliance? If you got a beef with some people, take it up to these very players.

Coining stuff like 'Archedykes' or 'Retards' or others calling VMG 'Vaginas' and generally calling names is both childish and will antagonize a wide range of players that don't have anything to do with the actual drama.

Ego makes people go out of their way to be nice /s Lol
And well people (like our VMG friends here) are quite easy to trick and to get mad lol

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HELVEGEN
#1253 - 2016-09-28 17:34:25 UTC
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Just to chime in on all of the elitism going on here. VMG..you DO remember the little fleet we had for that first fort when this war started right..you know, the one you did not show up for. It was the right call. Also, when aggressed in Niarja and was going to lose, you ran off and docked before the fleet arrived. Again, a wise choice. Retreating from a fight you cannot win is not a loss..you do it, we do it..we all do it. What's a loss is trying to fight when you know you can't win..just as you have done as well. So please..enough of the egotistic elitism thinking you "won" a battle because the other side chose wisely not to fight ..just as you do. Keep in mind, the only difference between bravery and stupidity is the outcome. Fighting a fight that's suicide is not bravery, it's stupidity. I know you know this.

There are a lot of VMG members I like..and some who are my friends (bet you didn't know that :) ). The bottom line is, and you know this all too well, you fight when you can and regroup when you can't. It is the way of things and the way of a good strategy. I couldn't care less about the epeen waving or testosterone. A fact is a fact.

There is a lot more I could get into here but I'll spare the readers the BS and myself the arguments of futility from those who won't agree. I will say, however..this did not turn out like you expected did it. You see, Sol has been feeding you BS from the start. Truth is, he really doesn't know..unless ofc we want him to "know".

Let's cut the BS plz. We are both better than that..at least I would hope so. Blink

Also, perhaps try a fight w/o 3 logi per member..it's whole new ball game..then you actually have to fit wisely..rather than shiny and depend on neutrals to keep you alive. But hey, I'm not judging. Smile


I have had nothing to do with or told anybody anything so on that count you are wrong.
You can post your apology here or to me by PM both is acceptable.
Malakye Appleton
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1254 - 2016-09-28 20:41:35 UTC
Just wanting to recap the gyst of all of the VMG attacks:

Vendettta sucks because:

We fly blingy ships
We can field 250 pilots in high sec
We field 3 logi per DPS ship
We dont like to/dont lose ships

So, now that Archetype and friends have expressed why they find it difficult to compete with VMG, I'm pretty sure the case has been made. I'll go back to hunting WT's now.

Thanks all for your support!

Be well.

Living the dream, one tear at a time...

Jane Galt
The John Galt Express
#1255 - 2016-09-28 21:02:53 UTC
lol you must not have been reading along. This is a more accurate list:

1. VMG docks when there are even numbers or are outnumbered.
2. VMG buys their friends.
3. VMG trash talks us for docking up vs a 200+ man fleet when you guys dock up vs a 50 man fleet.

We just want to give the trash talkers a dose of reality. We will be civil if you are. But if you come to our forum post to trash talk us with hypocrisy, we'll drag up your failures to counter.

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#1256 - 2016-09-29 03:19:45 UTC
Malakye Appleton wrote:
Just wanting to recap the gyst of all of the VMG attacks:

Vendettta sucks because:

We fly blingy ships
We can field 250 pilots in high sec
We field 3 logi per DPS ship
We dont like to/dont lose ships

So, now that Archetype and friends have expressed why they find it difficult to compete with VMG, I'm pretty sure the case has been made. I'll go back to hunting WT's now.

Thanks all for your support!

Be well.




Tossing my bet into the hat now


This guy really wants to be Holysheet 2.0
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gAVEN K
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1257 - 2016-09-29 19:20:00 UTC
Griever Takkow wrote:
This is what happens when Jane Galt and P45 drag you into a war.

Your group seemed to be rebuilding quite well, does it not make you wonder what it would be like if you were to disassociate yourselves from them! we are in this for the long haul I hope your members are too.



This is Right .



Just got on and had a quick read,
I dont pretend to know every thing that is going on or to be fair im not that arsed about it, all i wanted was to be in a small gang and fly about doing whats fun.
I left the alliance (atype) intially due to the ball swinging and in house arguing that was starting to build up and then i waited a while to see what would happen
Then all the Sol drama kicked up and finally calmed down.
The allaince started to get its **** together and was headed in the right direction and then came this GALT guy who in my opionon is using the allaince for his own gains and to be fair i dont honestly believe he has the backing of the allaince members ,Leadership maybe on side for a finacial aspect but the baynets are not that arsed about what he wants to do except when it starts to impact negativly on the allaince which it is doing massivley. the P45 thing is a bit of loyalty to a friend so the fight at least on that side isnt that bad a reason to be in a fight
the CTA for wednesday had gone (well in advance ) , with shouts of a 300 man fleet turning up logged on and ts is dead allaince chat is dead and about 6 members online

The same as it has been all week since it started proper with VMG

its sad but true

some one was on a bout fail , heres while

VMG fly in proper gangs incorporating all aspects logi heavy but all aspects of a gang are covered in the fleet
VMG members are motivated and up for the fight

Atype members dont want to fight for GALT( who promises payments once a set amout has been reached in order to tie you in to his long term plans)

and that it , it is a fail as the back bone of atype dont want to fight for this Galt who from no where has come in to the fold now has a positon of power with in the allaince, **** knows how , barks his orders and expects everyone to follow him.

he is like the kid no on likes untill he buys you something you want then you tolarate him for a day or two , then he buys you something else


please please atype managmnet get your heads together and dislocate your allaince from him before he ruins it completely


but who the **** im i to say anything ?? i may have seen it all wrong and been on at the wrong times

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HELVEGEN
#1258 - 2016-09-29 21:12:43 UTC
gAVEN K wrote:
Griever Takkow wrote:
This is what happens when Jane Galt and P45 drag you into a war.

Your group seemed to be rebuilding quite well, does it not make you wonder what it would be like if you were to disassociate yourselves from them! we are in this for the long haul I hope your members are too.



This is Right .



Just got on and had a quick read,
I dont pretend to know every thing that is going on or to be fair im not that arsed about it, all i wanted was to be in a small gang and fly about doing whats fun.
I left the alliance (atype) intially due to the ball swinging and in house arguing that was starting to build up and then i waited a while to see what would happen
Then all the Sol drama kicked up and finally calmed down.
The allaince started to get its **** together and was headed in the right direction and then came this GALT guy who in my opionon is using the allaince for his own gains and to be fair i dont honestly believe he has the backing of the allaince members ,Leadership maybe on side for a finacial aspect but the baynets are not that arsed about what he wants to do except when it starts to impact negativly on the allaince which it is doing massivley. the P45 thing is a bit of loyalty to a friend so the fight at least on that side isnt that bad a reason to be in a fight
the CTA for wednesday had gone (well in advance ) , with shouts of a 300 man fleet turning up logged on and ts is dead allaince chat is dead and about 6 members online

The same as it has been all week since it started proper with VMG

its sad but true

some one was on a bout fail , heres while

VMG fly in proper gangs incorporating all aspects logi heavy but all aspects of a gang are covered in the fleet
VMG members are motivated and up for the fight

Atype members dont want to fight for GALT( who promises payments once a set amout has been reached in order to tie you in to his long term plans)

and that it , it is a fail as the back bone of atype dont want to fight for this Galt who from no where has come in to the fold now has a positon of power with in the allaince, **** knows how , barks his orders and expects everyone to follow him.

he is like the kid no on likes untill he buys you something you want then you tolarate him for a day or two , then he buys you something else


please please atype managmnet get your heads together and dislocate your allaince from him before he ruins it completely


but who the **** im i to say anything ?? i may have seen it all wrong and been on at the wrong times



You are absolutely correct in your observations! Same as I have been saying all along.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#1259 - 2016-09-29 22:30:27 UTC
just a little PSA,
Galt was in ATYPE when our little Sole was still "boss"
Corp history can confirm this quite easily :D

On another note, Forza Horizon 3 is pretty fun
And ATYPE is gathering more salt daily than CODE. lately Lol

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Xorphix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1260 - 2016-09-30 15:18:01 UTC
Hire archetype, they get the job done. Smile