CSM Campaigns

FYI the best way to lose some of your most active players in game, is to get them voted onto csm.

While we're talking about ex-NoHo folk.

Hi Two Step, you sex panda.

-1 from me.

One of the main guys turning higher class holes into renters paradise... running for CSM to "better WH space"...

yeah...

No thanks.

judging by all the dead corps coming back to life to cry here we did well

gl noob

I for one would love Noobman to be on the CSM his knowledge and insight in killing fun would be a welcome addition /sarcasam, maybe with his attention focused on the CSM he wont be able to rent out ALL of C5-C6 space.

So Mr Noobman what would you push as changes to the Wspace as we see it today, more isk for sites perhaps, your own personal kill fun button?

noobman

is a good man

I'll start out by saying Eve is a sandbox. If someone wants to build an empire and has the military might to do so then what ever the heart desires. W-space is very unique compared to the rest of Eve. Unlike in Null where goons can reach every region they control and defend it with n+1 fleets, that is just not the case in W-space. Sure you can rage roll the 113 c6s and 512 c5s (plus Shattered whs) but can the defender keep up that every single day to defend 1 system in their "Empire"?

There is counter play in the current game, what the opposition to empires lacks is organization and a plan they can follow through with.

• The spawn rate of sites in c6 space is better.
• More sites per day = more isk.
• Less K-space connections = less PvP.
• Less PvP groups living in c6 space or in c5/c6 = Less chance of your PvE fleet getting caught.

These are all reasons why c6 has evolved into a more attractive space to PvE in. Eve players are notorious for finding the most efficient way to spend thier time, so they created an empire to do it.

Lastly you ask "should ccp do something to make c6 space more desirable to pvp groups?"
If they made C6's have dual static 3bil holes, I could seriously attempt to persuade my corp to move to a c6 with a c5 and null static. It would be the dream to have a high class static and a null connection.

he is good man )))

I think that would have to be answered on a case by case basis. If something is going to negatively affect w-space but is a " largely positive change" there has to be a compromise, or some idea or tweak that could make it better. If your talking about a risk of something CCP wants to implement for a larger vision it really just depends.

When CCP came to us with the citadel changes and information, all of w-space fought for the current revised plan for citadels. I think CCP was surprised that we wanted a more brutal and hardcore rules for ourselves in W-space. With the success we had with changing CCP's minds on citadels I know there will be more opportunities to do the same thing in the future.

I'm not being sarcastic, I've have made the entirely of my wealth from capital escalations. I know the real numbers of what you can pump out of a c6 mag or c5 mag or just a no effect c5. I've capital escalated in all of them.

I don't think the current method of solo 'Hero" dreading should be the baseline for the revamp of Capital PvE. I would like to see a larger cap fleet required. The difficulty of a perfect redesign is someone is always going to be able to run 5-6 clients and do it solo, which skews the Isk per hour per person. That person is taking on all the risk and has all the ISK invested in the pilots and ships, not to mention the immense workload of doing it solo (not just the sites themselves but the daily prep).

I think the ISK values of the sites themselves are not an issue. I'm not an economist nor do I have access to CCP data.

What I think has the majority of w-space upset is the 4 day respawn. If you are unfamiliar you can capital-ly escalate a site 4 days in a row before it despawns as long as you do not kill the trigger. All of the isk is in the escalation waves. Now if you had all sites be on a 24 lifetime, you would have sites randomly spawning at all times of the day. It would make the wormholes that are complete bearholes more active:

• They might run at multiple times a day
• They might run the site to completion for the extra ISK since it's not going to respawn.
• They will have more new sigs while running, makes it feel more risky for the guy doing it solo because he has to stop what he's doing to scan down the new data/relic site. Will promote safety in larger groups.
• Promotes being active in your wormhole, Instead of checking at DT if you got new sites then running them at your prefered time.

Now that is just 1 idea. there are so many tweaks you could do the the spawn sizes, the spawn locations, multiple rooms (say half the value is in capital escalation then you unlock a room or an open mission beacon generated that you can take subcaps only to that is the other half of the value.)

And lastly and and sort of controversially what if NPC kills increased the likelihood of a wormhole spawning in your hole?