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[Focus Group] Capital Ships

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Scott Ormands
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2015-11-14 20:02:44 UTC
I'm also curious where I come in.
Faren Shalni
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2015-11-14 20:42:50 UTC
I must admit this thread is entertaining

So Much Space
Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#63 - 2015-11-14 22:16:36 UTC
I'm good, right guy who has been in Darkness for 3 weeks?

~
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#64 - 2015-11-14 22:50:23 UTC
Elise Randolph wrote:
I'm good, right guy who has been in Darkness for 3 weeks?

I presume your meaningless comment is directed at me?

Little hint - I don't post with my main

Fun question - 1. Do you know me (not my forum alt), 2. or anything about me?

Answer to part 1, yes you do.
Part 2, not much obviously.


My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#65 - 2015-11-14 22:52:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Sgt Ocker
Scott Ormands wrote:
I'm also curious where I come in.

Funny.
I would have thought, if you have to ask the answer would be obvious.

(does anyone have a link to the slack logs.. are they available yet?)

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Scott Ormands
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2015-11-15 03:26:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Scott Ormands
Sgt Ocker wrote:
Scott Ormands wrote:
I'm also curious where I come in.

Funny.
I would have thought, if you have to ask the answer would be obvious.

(does anyone have a link to the slack logs.. are they available yet?)



Well obviously I'm unknown, but the question remains as to whether I'm also incompetent or corrupt, maybe both. Since you seem to be so great at passing judgement on people you don't actually know I figured i just must know what you think of me. It's just oh so important.

P.S. Selling out my adgenda for 10B isk and a vouch to PL.
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#67 - 2015-11-15 04:19:25 UTC
Scott Ormands wrote:
Sgt Ocker wrote:
Scott Ormands wrote:
I'm also curious where I come in.

Funny.
I would have thought, if you have to ask the answer would be obvious.

(does anyone have a link to the slack logs.. are they available yet?)



Well obviously I'm unknown, but the question remains as to whether I'm also incompetent or corrupt, maybe both. Since you seem to be so great at passing judgement on people you don't actually know I figured i just must know what you think of me. It's just oh so important.

P.S. Selling out my adgenda for 10B isk and a vouch to PL.

Actually I haven't passed judgement on anyone I don't either know (as in have spoken to on more than one occasion, been in fleet with many times, etc) or have had other 1st hand experience in game with.

You on the other hand are making unfounded false accusations - I'd now put you in the incompetent and corrupt groups.
Narrow minded (unable to separate truth from fiction), unknown and therefore untrustworthy, come to mind too but I didn't make the list of who's who, so didn't get to pick the categories (that was actually someone else).




Logs aren't edited enough for public viewing yet?

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#68 - 2015-11-15 05:53:36 UTC
Sgt Ocker wrote:
Elise Randolph wrote:
I'm good, right guy who has been in Darkness for 3 weeks?

I presume your meaningless comment is directed at me?

Little hint - I don't post with my main

Fun question - 1. Do you know me (not my forum alt), 2. or anything about me?

Answer to part 1, yes you do.
Part 2, not much obviously.




Woah you need to relax and be more like the man Bob Ross believes you can be.


~
Orca Platypus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2015-11-15 07:06:53 UTC
RoCkEt X wrote:
What group do i come under? LOL


Your allegiance clearly places you within Corrupt.
Your wall of text was nothing but meaningless bunch of crap until chapter 3, which revealed it all to be nothing more than crying to nerf already minimal and borderline pointless fatigue to a completely meaningless token mechanic state. This is also in line with your allegiance agenda, which confirms your placement as Corrupt.

I have no evidence that you belong in any other group more than to the current.

Scott Ormands wrote:
I'm also curious where I come in.

Fake curiosity reeks, you know.
5pitf1re
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#70 - 2015-11-15 09:38:32 UTC
Sgt Ocker wrote:
Logs aren't edited enough for public viewing yet?


You need to take your tinfoil off man. The group hasn't even begun with official feedback yet.
Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#71 - 2015-11-15 13:30:40 UTC
xttz wrote:
Orca Platypus wrote:
Wish I could take a peek at the clawing of two corrupt groups with conflicting intentions...

Gewnie intentions reek from miles away:
1) Protect the blessed jump range reduction that keeps Deklein out of hotdrop range.
2) Secure and expand the capital ratting, flourishing as a consequence of 1).
3) Preserve and expand the impenetrable safety mechanics for ratting capitals.
4) Turn supercapitals into defensive N+1 superweapons to secure the irl income sources until eve dies.


As it happens, some points I personally plan to advocate in the focus group are:

1) Increase jump range and nerf watchlist to bring back hotdrop/counter-drop play, but keep a version of the current system to prevent people to cross the map super-fast.
2) Carrier ratting is dumb as hell and needs to die in a fire.
3) See above
4) Supercaps should be an inspirational part of the game that drives people to both field them and kill them, without returning to being an N+1 apex ship.

The logs will all be public too.


tell me and please use arguments, why carrier ratting is dumb and should die?

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]
5pitf1re
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2015-11-15 16:04:05 UTC
Ellendras Silver wrote:
xttz wrote:
Orca Platypus wrote:
Wish I could take a peek at the clawing of two corrupt groups with conflicting intentions...

Gewnie intentions reek from miles away:
1) Protect the blessed jump range reduction that keeps Deklein out of hotdrop range.
2) Secure and expand the capital ratting, flourishing as a consequence of 1).
3) Preserve and expand the impenetrable safety mechanics for ratting capitals.
4) Turn supercapitals into defensive N+1 superweapons to secure the irl income sources until eve dies.


As it happens, some points I personally plan to advocate in the focus group are:

1) Increase jump range and nerf watchlist to bring back hotdrop/counter-drop play, but keep a version of the current system to prevent people to cross the map super-fast.
2) Carrier ratting is dumb as hell and needs to die in a fire.
3) See above
4) Supercaps should be an inspirational part of the game that drives people to both field them and kill them, without returning to being an N+1 apex ship.

The logs will all be public too.


tell me and please use arguments, why carrier ratting is dumb and should die?


I'm fairly sure he means AFK carrier ratting and I agree with it. AFK farming activities should die in a fire.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#73 - 2015-11-15 17:34:30 UTC
5pitf1re wrote:
I'm fairly sure he means AFK carrier ratting and I agree with it. AFK farming activities should die in a fire.

Good job that from what we've seen of the new fighter squadrons they look to be dependant on the player actively controlling them.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#74 - 2015-11-15 19:44:42 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
5pitf1re wrote:
I'm fairly sure he means AFK carrier ratting and I agree with it. AFK farming activities should die in a fire.

Good job that from what we've seen of the new fighter squadrons they look to be dependant on the player actively controlling them.

They could of just removed the "feature" that drone auto attack enemies and be done with this stupidity tho.
Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#75 - 2015-11-15 21:01:32 UTC
5pitf1re wrote:
Ellendras Silver wrote:
xttz wrote:
Orca Platypus wrote:
Wish I could take a peek at the clawing of two corrupt groups with conflicting intentions...

Gewnie intentions reek from miles away:
1) Protect the blessed jump range reduction that keeps Deklein out of hotdrop range.
2) Secure and expand the capital ratting, flourishing as a consequence of 1).
3) Preserve and expand the impenetrable safety mechanics for ratting capitals.
4) Turn supercapitals into defensive N+1 superweapons to secure the irl income sources until eve dies.


As it happens, some points I personally plan to advocate in the focus group are:

1) Increase jump range and nerf watchlist to bring back hotdrop/counter-drop play, but keep a version of the current system to prevent people to cross the map super-fast.
2) Carrier ratting is dumb as hell and needs to die in a fire.
3) See above
4) Supercaps should be an inspirational part of the game that drives people to both field them and kill them, without returning to being an N+1 apex ship.

The logs will all be public too.


tell me and please use arguments, why carrier ratting is dumb and should die?


I'm fairly sure he means AFK carrier ratting and I agree with it. AFK farming activities should die in a fire.


you may be fairly sure, i am not. i hate assumptions so i try never to make them (don't claim i always succeed at it)

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#76 - 2015-11-15 21:17:21 UTC
5pitf1re wrote:
Sgt Ocker wrote:
Logs aren't edited enough for public viewing yet?


You need to take your tinfoil off man. The group hasn't even begun with official feedback yet.

So when is what has been discussed going to be available.

No tinfoil needed you just confirmed, what you responded to as correct.
I'm pretty sure when someone says ALL LOGS, it should mean all logs.

Only "official" feedback will be available to players - Stinks of - Get your deals in before the logs are "official feedback", that way you can be seen to be seeking some sort of balance officially while having already got what you want privately.
That is what you just said above - Isn't it?

Talk about reducing your credibility.



This is eve where telling lies, backstabbing and self serving interest groups, are part of daily game play.
Maybe I've spent too much time dealing with self serving political groups and individuals (in and out of Eve) to be open minded about a group who could potentially further reduce (remove) my ability to play the way I choose - IE; not in blobs.

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
MrQuisno
Doomheim
#77 - 2015-11-15 21:50:22 UTC
Hello,

I would like to join the focus group for capital ships. As over the last few years I been pushing many ideas on the forums for how it would be awesome to change up some of the capitals and fighters. I have push ideas like fittings to fighters or even different type of classes. Glad to see some of the ideas got used. Nerfing the capital ships HP to make them the players pick a path to all dps or tank.

I still think we are still missing a capital ship here. Why can't we get a super class for force Auxiliary with special abilities. You would use these type of ships which give special abilities out side the scope of command ships. Giving you extra fitting slot high med or low maybe even rigs. Instead of stacking penalties of using more then one type of module. In other words say you wanted to fit 4 cargo slots in the low. With this ship you would get same bounes for 4 fitted but would be able to free up one extra slot to fit what ever you liked.
Lazarus Telraven
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#78 - 2015-11-15 22:22:12 UTC
Sgt Ocker wrote:
5pitf1re wrote:
Sgt Ocker wrote:
Logs aren't edited enough for public viewing yet?


You need to take your tinfoil off man. The group hasn't even begun with official feedback yet.

So when is what has been discussed going to be available.

No tinfoil needed you just confirmed, what you responded to as correct.
I'm pretty sure when someone says ALL LOGS, it should mean all logs.

Only "official" feedback will be available to players - Stinks of - Get your deals in before the logs are "official feedback", that way you can be seen to be seeking some sort of balance officially while having already got what you want privately.
That is what you just said above - Isn't it?

Talk about reducing your credibility.



This is eve where telling lies, backstabbing and self serving interest groups, are part of daily game play.
Maybe I've spent too much time dealing with self serving political groups and individuals (in and out of Eve) to be open minded about a group who could potentially further reduce (remove) my ability to play the way I choose - IE; not in blobs.


To get you to stop crying I have posted the logs to pastebin for your viewing pleasure. http://pastebin.com/A0XBxnFA
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#79 - 2015-11-16 06:10:05 UTC
Lazarus Telraven wrote:

To get you to stop crying I have posted the logs to pastebin for your viewing pleasure. http://pastebin.com/A0XBxnFA

Quote:
http://pastebin.com/A0XBxnFA
Equals
Quote:
The logs show nothing.


Well that was about as informative as I thought it would be - Easy and fast to read to..
Empty paste bins usually are.

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#80 - 2015-11-16 15:32:22 UTC
Orca Platypus wrote:
Lazarus Telraven wrote:
I know I'm not very well known, but to put me in the unknown list hurts my feelings :\

You are not known at all, but your affiliation has clearly placed you within a group, intentions of which are definitely not unknown.

MFW "....Laz is unknown"

You should stop posting immediately.

I'm right behind you