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I don't.

I care that you are able to pay to bypass a core game mechanic.

To specify further: I don't care how hideously costly it is (I won't say “restrictively” because we all know that's not how these things work). I don't care how much of a faff it is to do. In fact, I don't even care about how common or uncommon an occurrence it turns out to be. I care about the utter lunacy of letting mechanical applicability be a matter of wallet size.


You are barking up the wrong tree if you think that age is in any way relevant to my complaint. In fact, my proposed solution would largely remove that correlation as well. Instead, I want you to go back and read what I've actually said with fresh eyes and try to understand what the actual issue is, because it has nothing to do with what you're on about.

The idea presented by CCP Rise in the Dev Blog has two merits:

1) the existing Character Bazaar could really get some love. Character transfers have always been a part of the game and no one complained about negative impact. I know enough experienced players who used this to acquire a specialized toon they would not have been able to train in many months.
CHARACTER BAZAAR PROVIDES ****** UI EXPERIENCE.

2) new players might be frustrated because the skill point gap to veterans is high. But thats often not even the point. You do not start the game and expect to be elite from the start. What counts more: If they instantly join a corporation as they are often told, the corporation struggles to effectively make use of the eager pilots. Even the most basic programs for getting them into a tackler or combat frigate role that can effectively be used in a typical small/mid-size corp op takes weeks and months.
THE CURRENT SKILL PROGRESSION FOR NEW PLAYERS HINDERS BECOMING VALUABLE FOR CORPORATIONS QUICKLY.

Nevertheless, I think that the conclusion " lets kill two bugs with one feature" and make SP extractable is a bad idea.

This will have side effects.

1) SP FARMS: Zombie SP farming characters will make the proposal equivalent to selling SP for Aurum/PLEX PLUS create a mess of unnecessary bad complexity.
If you really want this, just sell SP for Aurum. Or buy back old characters.

2) RESPECCING :Also, any character will be able to completely respec all skills by extracting anything that is not core skills and eating the extracted packages himself.

3) TOON RECYCLING: there are reasons why we are not allowed to recycle/create tons of trial toons. People are likely to abuse this to create throwaway alts as spies, traitors or bad guys.
Now we would be able to do this with high SP chars as well? For a small fee of 20% we would be able to transfer all SP of a spy to a completely fresh face with completely different skills.
Ok, this opens up new gameplay options, but it has a HUGE abuse potential. Consequences for actions? 20% in the worst case...

4) NO SP SINK: diminishing returns are somewhat promising to limit this feature. But zombie SP farms will establish a stable price for SP - there will be no real SP sink.

5) SKIPPING GAMEPLAY: players might feel incentivized to skip low power gameplay and then get bored if they can buy limitless SP. They whole process of skilling, discussing skills, focussing on a role provided a lot of fun to me during the first years of EVE whereas now I can practically do anything and only wait for expansions to create new content.

6) REVENUES: this might increase CCPs revenues in the short run. It is always a good idea to have our devs content and fed, but the real thing should be the impact on long term game population. Not sure here.


Conclusion:
I think a new UI for the bazaar is a good idea, best incorporated in the client.

For our new players, unallocated SP would be a huge boon. But being b00ns, they will certainly gimp the opportunity. Power without control. :-/

How about either some higher class opportunity that provides a one-time SP bonus (drawback: similar mandatory as old tutorials) coming a bit later in the game or better :
more Cerebral Accelerators.
They already give SP for money. They cant be easily abused.
They can be designed for different skill levels, they dont skip learning, only accelerate it ( no drunken buying of nonsense skills you already hate after first use).

Sell them for Aurum or add them to some loot tables....


And please make Cerebral Accelerators and other Learning Implants indestructible. They disincentivize early PvP...

TLDR for the 83 pages:

CCP is dumb

So you just quoted the part where it says it favors new players and challenged me for stating the same with additional comment that it will not work. Thank you for making your own previous posts looking dump and finally taking away chances that anyone can give some seriousness to your posts. And of course thank you for such great meaningful contribution.

ROFL.

…except that no game mechanics are being bypassed by the bazaar.

Again, I know you are smarter than this, so just stop playing stupid.

Well… unless you've used the character bazaar recently and Dave now has a new owner, in which case, LMAO at not understanding the service you just used.

Lol, 83 pages already.

Anyway,

It's dead Jim.

7o

Same logic as plex. With the bazaar, at least someone HAD to endure the training, all the way. HAD to think about it, elaborate it.

With skill sculpting, you not only able to put someone else's skill points freely and such, but you can also model your own char by "liposculpting" your skill pool.

In the bazaar you cannot circumvent the time by agregating skill points from multiple chars in one.

By means of skills modeling, you actually can put several chars to train in order to make a triple, ten fold, hundred fold, skill queue which then you just pull up to one single char.

That is impossible using the bazaar.

actually i quoted the reason why there's diminishing returns - and it quite clearly states it isn't for new players it's to protect the prestige of having an older character.

if you want to make random connections that's cool - but the fact remains that nowhere in the devblog does ccp state this is for new players.

you can say it was intended for new players all you want - however there's not a single statement that supports that assertion.

I'll add this.

The idea that businesses basically just have to make as much money as possible is fundamentally wrong.

Businesses are made of people; the ones having more influence on the business' goals are the owners and managers.

People can have all sorts of motivations, making money is just one of them.


On one side of the spectrum, you have companies just wanting to make money, to the point of fraud or illegality even.

On the other side, you have idealists that just want to make a perfect product or service and sometimes end up bankrupt.


Every company has its own culture and priorities, and they change over time.


CCP proposing this new Aurum-related feature just looks like a step closer to the 'greedy' side of the spectrum and farther away from a 'make an awesome game' side...

a new player who starts playing today can't get past a few thousand SP. the character bazzar bypasses that limit.

so yes, it does.

you're whining that the rate of sp gain can't be changed - which is true however you can totally disregard it by buying a character. so the mechanic is already being bypassed.