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Is this so hard to grasp?

If you are hungry - what would you rather have? Seven pizzas next week, or one pizza right now. The new system would allow anyone with enough money in their bags to create - yes "create" exactly the characters they want in a very short time. Can you not see how that completely devalues the whole training and skillpoint progression thing? I am not a big fan of the CB, but I see how it helps keeping the E-Bay character trading at bay. But this new system is completely over the top.

Yes, it's more efficient, but you know what would be even more efficient? If everyone started out with every skill at 5. Efficiency is not always good in game mechanics.

You wouldnt need this to kill the game but oh wait, we can all dock supers soon so theres 2 accounts per top sp players they no longer need. 'Scuse me whilst i absorb the sp from my titan and super toons I no longer need into each other, now i have 2x 200mil sp toons. Also CCP now has 2 LESS subscriptions.

Goons screaming about how great this is because they will benefit most, Like they did from fozzie sov. And im not sure we should pander to an alliance that holds the theory of 'create as little content as possible for our enemies'

I had a long winded post written up but deleted in to put things more plainly....

Character Bazaar is already dangerously close to the accepted definition of P2W. However, the character you are purchasing comes with it's own faults. It may have a bad reputation, it is likely missing remaps, it's skills may not be "perfectly" allocated. But these are risks you take when following this path of P2W to instantly advance yourself into a higher SP character. You do not get to choose exactly where you put those SP, another player had to create a skill plan which he felt would meet the wants and desires of the greatest number of buyers.

By taking it out of their hands you now open up the trade of skill alts who will simply sit in stations by the hundreds if not thousands with +5s and perfect remaps pumping max SP/hr into skills for the specific purpose of melting it down for sales/transfer to main. While that doesn't seem any different than the current bazaar tell me this, what effort does it take to do 1 remap, plug in 2 +5 implants and set your skill queue to 500 days of spaceship command, gunnery and missiles?

Let's go with what some have suggested and you can only put skills into the same category it was taken from. Same as what I stated above, you now have X number of alts each with the proper remap pumping into those categories. NOTHING has changed, it takes no more effort than if you allowed trade between categories, just a few more alts.

Some of you seem to think that the DR of SP to higher SP pilots balances the whole thing. You guys play the same game right? you realize 50m SP is enough to make a perfectly focused pilot in nearly everything right? All this done at only a 4:5 ratio? That's still an effective 2160/hr from a perfect remap of 2700/hr with +5s. Some players within this game have so much isk they'd be willing to pay for it even at an effective 1080/hr conversion for characters up to 80m (even titan pilots don't take nearly this much).

So with the DR racking up so quickly, they are right, very few would be willing to go much further with a single character. But why would they? Just going that far gets them a perfect character with all their remaps intact, no possibility of a bad reputation, and no way to trace who it could belong to. Why throw skill goo to make a perfect subcap pilot then throw DRed goo at the same character to let it fly caps when you can more efficiently just make a new character to do it? If you can't grasp this much then talking about this with you is not worth any of our time.




I digress, the reason players have accepted the Character Bazaar as an acceptable P2W is because of the risks, research, and compromises involved by both parties. The presented idea does away with all this and crosses the line, in my opinion, into the realm of full blown P2W money grabbing. This gets a massive NO from me.

If you want to allow for reallocation on the same character then we can talk. Say a single skill converted into unallocated skillpoints at the cost of a remap. Also, a character rename made available via plex/aurum with a tab under that character for "Previous aliases" would be acceptable by many.

Has anyone stopped to calculate how much Plex will skyrocket in price to accommodate this? and how many accounts will go offline because of this direct change?

This is ******* terrible, are you clowns for real?

No, I'm just able to see things without a blood haze over my vision.

It's the same thing. Characters in eve are not special. They are commodities to be bought and sold.

How do you get this? We haven't implied that the system benefits or hurts us in any particular way.

Also, most of the "screaming" is me; I have 11% of the total post count in this thread and 66% of the Goonswarm Federation post count.

Buy extractors for Aurum (Which is real money)
Buy 10 new Accounts for PLEX (which is real money)
Start training those and have your very own Super in a month.

The only place where the market comes into play is when you buy the skillbooks, and they are NPC seeded.

Yes, it will probably be more expensive than buying a character from the CB, but that doesn't help. Or would you say, that P2W is less terrible if it's just expensive enough?

I could parrot all the well written valid arguments against this idea, but I will not.

Instead I will simply state that I am opposed to this plan.