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1. Start new account using buddy program, 3x characters, each with 400k SP.
2. Use free PLEX from buddy invite to buy extractors. Lots of them.
3. Sell 1.2M SP for 600M isk (using current conversion rate*).
4. Recycle characters, generating 3 new ones.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until extractors are used.
6. Buy more extractors with generated isk.
7. Go back to 3.

*A quick check of the character Bazaar shows SP converts to isk at a conservative value of 500 isk/SP.

Free infinite isk farming is a go. At least until the market is completely obliterated. Also, one could do this on a single account to funnel SP directly into their main, regardless of the diminishing returns because who cares? Free SP is free. Titans for everyone. PLEX at 500kkkkkkkkkkkkkk. Gallente and Caldari living together. Mass hysteria!

lel, I'm reminded of this Charlton Heston clip: https://youtu.be/9IKVj4l5GU4


EDIT: RIP my reading comprehension. 5M SP minimum. nvm. Clip still applies though

so this is one of the great ideas coming from the brightest minds to keep eve going? by the way there is no need to write a 2500 word essay explaining yourselves when a couple of paragraphs could do. sorry, am kinda disappointed, expected more.

people do this already

Absolutely disagree with this idea. There is no reason to repeat what 41 pages of other people have said already on why.

Where do I start?
In the beginning there was training. And then there was more training. Skillpoints growing steadily, faster or slower, online or offline, subscription or not. But there was always this mantra, Eve online, the game where you progress even while offline.
The Beauty. The Bane.
Touted by some as one of the best features of this game. Disdained by others who abandoned the ship no longer excited by the prospect of waiting another 3 or 30 days to do X of fly Y or fit Z.
When it comes to choices, Eve offers many but for a sandbox there was always this major impediment, if you want it to do something, as fast as possible but it implied a ship or a fitting you could not use, you were boned. Done. Fuxxored. Not on that character mate, no way.

Yes, I know, this is a massively multiplayer online role playing game. As in you are supposed to band with others where one can not go or succeed alone. But it's still a game. Harsh and cruel as it may be sometimes, it is a game. And games are ultimately about goals and fun, goals you set and the fun you make on the way. There's no fun in waiting for that SP count to grow. No fun at all.

That being said, the way character progression works in Eve is the way this game makers envision it. It was their choice and the success of Eve Online means it was not a bad choice. Could it have been better? Anything can be improved. And not everybody likes everything.

Now is today. Today we consider putting characters to the meat grinder and sell them skillpoint by skillpoint to the highest bidder. Would it be the wrong decision? The doom scenario where the anti P2W crowd grabs the pitchforks and burn the place down, leaving in droves? I think not. This is not a leaked secret memo about golden ammo and gullible customers. This is a devblog asking, probably, honestly for feedback.

Probably. Eve online numbers are down, no question about it. So one has to ask: Could this actually be about a money grab? Sell them, sell them all but buy the Aurum. I have no idea. I don't know the financial status of CCP hf. Maybe it's in tatters and they must come up with ways of raising more money. Maybe it's doing ok and this a genuine idea intended for new and "Oops, I trained Anchoring V" players. However some will see it as a greedy move and they will assume that the boat is sinking. Some will hate this out of spite or hypocrisy or because they are archangels and everything else is tainted by vileness and sin. Yeah, that's hypocrisy again.

So a subset of Eve players will no doubt be very vocal against it or even quit over it. That's a risk. On one hand, it could be minor. On the other, unpredictable.

I choose to believe in the integrity of this idea. That it came along due to a concern about the long term health of this game and it's new blood. And I believe it will fail. I believe it will fail because it can lead to the perception that the entry level in Eve is buying skillpoints. And that could be the beginning of the end.

I vote NO to this.

I played an online world war 2 flight combat simulator called aces high since 1999 http://hitechcreations.com/
I have done work on skins for them and did work setting up entire battlefield terrains over 1000 square miles in size so I do have experience with being a vet player of something and I know the difference between what players want and what they ask for.

Now I can tell you in that sim I could kill noobs without blinking even though they flew the same planes as I did and I had no SP crutch just skill advantage.

Every aircraft in there was available at same performance levels from day one and vets killed noobs just as easily there as in eve only the noobs don't have an excuse to give themselves in that sim. It helped in that sim that I am a practicing aerobatic pilot in real life as well so the actual skill difference in a game like that makes it require no skill points.

A 10 year air combat vet will dominate air combat on any platform or game with realistic controls and physics versus a new player with no air combat experience. when I tried War Thunder on full realism I was killing noobs from day one of playing that sim as well as the applied skill transitioned across to this game.

so lets apply this logic to eve...

I find eve and I adapt my tactics to this game and have success even with barely 20mil skill points.

I learn that...

Low skill points only means you can not solo it means you must fly in a fleet.
It also means you must choose one or two ships max and skill them out before adding more ships.

this game play mechanic mimics real life aviation training where you must get a type rating on larger aircraft and even smaller aircraft require training to proficiency in their operation.

I took great interest in the skill training system and found it to be one of the most ingenious aspects of retaining player interest as the fact remained you needed very little skill points to play and succeed if you understood combat tactics and it kept you always interested in what new feature you would have access to with time.

I considered buying a toon but that would shorten my journey in eve and I wanted to get there on my own and enjoy the ride. I felt I would only be cheating myself and I still feel this way and have enjoyed my eve experience from day one with no sp boosts or bought accounts.

I did however train skills relentlessly without missing a day even before the long skill que was added.

I hope CCP wakes up and drops this idea as it simply ruins an amazing aspect of eve that is unique and can be found in no other game.

I don't even know what to say here.

Sooooo...I'm just deleting what may be the most interesting post I've ever written. (Which isn't necessarily saying much.)

See what you 3%@!$#!@##'ers did!

No.

Removing one of the last truly unique aspects of eve, to generate more income is bad.

Not to mention the 'promise' at the beginning that the aur store would never hold game changing items... only cosmetic.

Just no.

So, you derive your fun from deliberately handicapping yourself?

You can still continue to do so. No one is forcing you to acquire skill boosters at gunpoint (or post-point.)

when I was a bit of a younger player, I started to train alts on my same account by stopping my training on this account. although it only has 900k SP, that's still nearly a million SP wasted due to my incompetence. can you take off the minimum 5 million SP restriction so that I can transfer these SP to my main?(my main has around 23)