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The problems seem to rest with going beyond a certain threshold.

1. Let anyone with 30 mill+ sp rip them out.
2. Diminish returns to a hard cap of nothing at 30 mill SP.
3. Let the character bazaar live on to cater to the needs of mature players. They know where it is.

The idea is a good one if the scope is limited to above.

(the idea is to nudge the x-month old average player to become x+y month old average player. With x+y being well within 30 mill sp)

You CAN'T buy skill points for characters over and above the rate limited by subscription.
Skill point ARE the only thing left in game cannot buy with real money,

So I guess I'm NOT WRONG

But feel free to tell me where to buy them and I will gladly buy you the skills needed for any one of your Characters to be able to fly a Titan .

Keep it up guys, this is very interesting and will be of great use in hammering out the fine details of this feature.

If you read my post instead of descending "into the depths of the sarcastic reply post" you'd realize every bit of your question, as well as it's lack of relevance to the point you were arguing (the misused quote and trying to selectively apply it) was addressed.

But you'd actually have to read it for that.

Edit: Actually, no, it's not reading that's the issue most likely, it's pretending the specific thing being suggested in the op is somehow the only "advantage" that could be conveyed through real money. We have other advantages demonstrated, but for obvious reasons you try to disqualify them.

And the reason, as stated prior, is simply that unless you disqualify them all you'd be forced to face the fact that the quote doesn't actually hold true. Problem is that same quote doesn't give you room to disqualify the other advantages real money can convey.

Edit 2: Further, it seems the only reason that statement is coming up is discounting the fact that due to already circulating PLEX there is no reason for cash to need to be spent to participate in any part of the proposal, which seems to be CCPs definition of fair considering other advantages cash can bring.

I take back the edits, maybe it really is just reading comprehension.

Maybe we need to explore further? Surely they'd tell us when we've explored enough, right?

Thanks for the reply BUT where do I buy these Skill Points you said that I could already buy because that's all I want you to tell me. The rest of your comments are just the guff of red herrings you usually post.

How much is the meowing of 1.5 cats?

I've read through this thread and agree on people being against this proposal because of the diminishing returns not being very diminishing, people just can buy more extractors and do it all x times over till the desired amount of unallocated points is reached.

My opinion is, there's always something to train up, and having a skilling decision second-guessed at some point is fairly normal, given the amount of skills and their time-requirements. There's already a ton of skills that are widely considered a must-have to be able to fly any given kind of ship reasonably, and there's tons of resources, both ingame chat with players, and out of game forums, on the topic of what to skill for, when, and why exactly.

If people would want to reskill and refocus, there's already an ingame item (found in infantry gear) to do just that, I'm just not sure if it's not for DUST only (infantry gear not used in spaceships afaik). If so, make it universal. I can imagine wanting to rearrange, refocus and retrain my skills from scratch, using an EVEMon skill plan that I would build myself for reference not to mix it up in game. 80% skillbook price refund and maybe a percentage penalty on the amount of points refunded? Fine with me, paid the price for convenience.

And besides, for a specialized focused (hauler,incursion,you name it) alt, I've already been willing to sacrifice some time and plex to train specific things for specific purposes, no problem with that, and never once considered it a nuisance or such. Having alts not involved in wars and able to do stuff to make money to blow up in wars, and training those alts up myself instead of buying them, easy for me personally :)

The whole concept of character breakup brings me to another discussed and so far dismissed point, how about allowing character renaming? With employment history kept in place ofc, for people to not go completely anonymous with the name change, spais, corp thiefs, scammers and all the other piratey scum out there :))) Tons of people got their names wrong for this or that reason and want to change it, and there's surely some who'd want a rename to mark their prestige, or excellence in some field or other in the game :)

a) In very same video you have linked, CCP presentation. You are still talking about the peak, like this is the change which will get people to go to it. It wont, everything will remain pretty much as it is. So TSP will be expensive - for young players due to sheer amount of isk needed, for experienced players its not going to be worth it due to diminishing returns

b) It is not long term solution - meaning it is not strategy which can be continuously used (except very minor amount of people in game). Repeating:

And eve is all about long term. So if someone is not satisfied with regular sp/hour rate he will sooner or later go and purchase the char and your whole point is void.

Using couple of TSP to stay identified with your main char is lol point as no one will go and purchase char with 1-2mil sp more.

And again, char with higher sp does not have to be main char. People identify to the chars they want, if they want. TSP will not affect their personal play style and affinities in any way.

e) Not really if you get that SP in less than week with regular training anyway for very high price (half of the average players wallet).

SRP is SRP, simple as it. Corps which do it distinguish themselves from the corps which do not and TSP is not going to change anything there. But among all corps with SRP only thing which distinguishes is the value of SRP, nothing else. As every item is market item, players can always sell the ones they got in SRP and they do not like / need and buy the ones they like / need.

g) You are failing at basic economy. If one of the TSP parts is linked to Plex (and we know extractor is) then Plex prices will affect TSP pricing.

h) ROI is the issue and the reason why it will not work as your "plan".

m) You are denying market facts again. Plex is rising in price for years, supply is going down for years while at the all time demand for isk is there. People are covering it with less money then in past. For 1.2 bils you had to sell 4-5 plexes years ago, now you sell just one. With even more demand prices are going to go higher and people will get more isk for their cash. And that is only certain thing with TSP - it will make plex prices go up.

n) As i said, i wanted to define reputation in order to avoid your empty walls of text. I gave you definitions, you did not confirm or agree with any of them. Because if you would then you would admit that young players cannot have real reputation, their circle of influence in every possible term is way to small to be able to cause any major loss and get bad reputation.

And if they are not capable of checking chars history before buying it and eventually buy it and cry over it later I can only tell them "Welcome to Eve". This is not simcity.

Reprocessing "harmful" characters and selling them TSP is not a plus. Eve is about choices and consequences, if you want to make it hello kitty online that just shows that this game aint really for you.

You did not fall into "side effects" appeal since you did not provide counter argument for a single one I mentioned. Walls of text are not going to hide it.

In the end, you are still writing empty walls of text, you are still denying official data, facts and economy rules, still not providing any counter arguments for side effects. "Positive practices" of TSP you suggest are so minor and non important, plus they are against primary ideas of eve universe (choices and consequences). While i like your persistence, i really question your hidden agenda in this.... (just crossed my mind you might be plex seller who wants higher plex prices?)