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So you're, per usual, avoiding the question. DO explain to us why you put in all this effort and time into this thread, surely there must be a personal reason for it.

Thats the essence.

From the bazaar you get the good and the bad, and it's a trade off - you weigh up if the things you want against those you don't - and like most of the best parts of EVE, its a compromise that takes thinking about.

Getting rid of unused SP to trade in for cherry picked skills smacks of pandering to players immediate gratification - and with immediate gratification you lose both the time, and the emotional investment in the game, and with nothing invested, where's the attachment?

I'm a fairly new player, I already have skills I wish I hadn't trained - but training them meant I had time to learn, and time to anticipate and look forward to things I wanted to do - it kept me interested ! If I could pay to get what I wanted...... I'd probably have tried everything in a few months, not bothered to learn any of the games subtleties, and been gone by now.

Of course some people will definitely quit over this. The only question would is how many.

You seem to be ignorant or in denial of the opinion in this thread, CCP don't have that same luxury though.

There is a difference...

Although characters can change hands, and a PERSON can gain a lot of SP in a short time by paying ISK, CHARACTERS still gain SP using the existing mechanics which are speed limited.

This change would allow CHARACTERS to gain a lot of SP in a short time, bypassing the existing, speed limited mechanic.

If you threw enough money at it you could create any custom, perfect character in a short time, without regard to what may or may not be available on the character bazaar, and without interference from the vagaries of supply and demand, or the necessity to tolerate stupid names or poor reputation / history.

Infact CCP has the luxury to do so - still waiting on your response CCP Terminus ^^

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6110431#post6110431
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6110534#post6110534

3 accs running out and only returning if this mess gets stopped - maybe others unsubbing, like to share here, too
Ofcourse it´s not a bad thing and i have no hatred in this. if ccp likes to follow this road further (as they did in the past) - the one´s liking this will stay and pay - the one´s don´t will leave. Others waiting for features like this may come and leave again. (someone who has observed the behaviour of f2p communities may know what i mean, although the effects might not be that strong in eve, as its features, supporting this, are a bit more hidden under the ground than elsewhere) It´s simply a shift in the community (or a something one can call a recreation - which fits well as eve gets recreated and reconfigured, too). Nothing to be sad about.

From CCPs point of few i would guess it´s simply the question which decission could potentially lead to more income (in a specific timeframe) than the other. And this has only on answer, so i doubt this would get stopped.

As we got told: eve´s income is not here to create the best possible eve game, it´s dedicated to diversify in different products and securing the (hopefully rising) income and future of a company. And thats ok.

Just put your thoughts about what you want to play and what eve may be beside, just see what this is, for what this is, and simply decide if you want to be part of it with your time, dedication and your money

Then do not be surprised if no one cares to provide you one. kktnxbye.

No, you haven't.


If it's "the same" as you put it (which it is not, obviously) then you wouldn't care whether or not it would be implemented and while you might have an opinion for or against it wouldn't incite your hilarious **** spamming spin doctoring. The very FACT that you sperg all over this thread proves there's a vested interest somewhere which goes beyond "it's the same so meh who cares".

So again: why do you clown all over this thread, what is your personal motivation? Given how outspoken you are on the subject I'm sure you can explain it to us. Heck you might even convince us!

He is trolling, in nice manner. Basically it seems he cannot be banned as mods can advocate that to his not understanding of question, or stupidity or whatever but majority of his posts in this topic is just making noise, "challenging" people who are against this, stating that he provided counter arguments without a single one actually being provided, pulling things out of context, twisting out,repeating already easily flawed statements like they are correct etc.

also said that before, but for your benefit since you seem to be unable to read; cos i wanted to see what all the negativity was about since it only seems to exist here in eve-o.

y'all seem very upset CCP are trying to make things we already have less hassle. usually when they do this we applaud and cheer but apparently this time because it's rise/terminus/whatever team they're on rather than karkur/punkturis/whatever teams they're on you're all throwing your rattle out of the pram.

Yea, we all believe you. Please say that out loud. Then realize how it smells on bs after having you 3+ days here, posting like mad without much contribution. Out of simple curiosity (as you just wanted to see what`s all the fuss) you are wasting hours and hours of your time, yea right :D Well you have seen whats the fuss about, why are you still trolling? :D

You are caring a lot and you are pushing a lot in support of this.

Why? I do not know since you did not come up with real arguments to back it up why it would be good for the game, so it has to be some personal interest. Either alt of someone who came with this [sarcasm]brilliant[/sarcasm] idea or someone who has already thought a way to abuse it.