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And that new player will be seeing his peers buy SP. He will see them more efficient at missions. More efficient at exploration. More efficient at mining. Whatever path he chooses there will very likely be players around of similar age but more efficient... because they paid. So maybe he will buy few packs, just to not feel left behind by what supposed to be his peers. But ultimately he will realize that unless he comes to terms with normal skilling his choices are: sell an arm or quit.
New player experience will go south. But perhaps CCP assume that at this point growth in new subscriptions is not on the table.

No we know some do it. And we don't know when they did it or why, except for on case.

Basically, you got nothing here but assumptions piled on top of some limited data.

Impressive as a turd.

There's no reason to make the game out as if it's so interesting at low SP. If there's a method of progression in-game, how is that not them benefiting? Whether they capitalize on their options or quit is up to the game to seem interesting at that level.

You build a 10 pipeline skill queue by leveling alts with the sole intent to feed skills to one char. voilà, you not only "bought a super char", this superchar is like you want, with the skills you want, and didnt cost you half of what it would from the Bazaar.

OMG you got 2 data points!!!!

OMG OMG OMG OMG.



Comeback when you have a random sample of players...say 1,000. Until then stop talking out of your butt.

Oh, and yeah it mattes how old they were, you were defending the position that Laz Telraven bought a character 1 week in game, implying that this is somewhat common.

http://eve-search.com/stats/thread/450912-1

Just a thing I wanted to leave here:

Dave Stark 187 (7,1%)
Querns 128 (4,8%)
Don ZOLA 98 (3,7%)
Teckos Pech 96 (3,6%)

Some people are rather violently pushing their agenda.

It is amazing how determinism get people to absurds that seem logic.

If you strip away the history of EVE, reason for the views the veterans have.
If you strip away the fan boys, the people who like eve because they are enthusiastic.

Again, if you strip away everything that doesnt contradict your view, then you are right.

That is amazing how someone can think of it as being a valid point. Well, entire political campaigns in the Caldari States of Lonetrek were built upon, so I dont expect some people to understand how bogus it is.

So ok, lets try: If I strip all the water, cool-aid is actually solid ! (mind blown, ha !)

People play games not only because they like the game, but because there is other people playing.

According to statistics, lack of players in a MMO shows twice as much as content low quality and counterproductive control combined as reasons people leave MMOs. So yeah, the legacy of players and what makes them stay is very important for gathering new players. Trade the satisfaction of those already playing to try get new players is the one single worse move every mmo has made right before their fall.

Lost Hope also figures higher in informed quit list than long learning curve. It is barely the last thing in all the lists people quitting because it takes too long to get to the cap level. And at the present, people are even fed up with games you join today and get cap level tomorrow. The worse problem in this regard is not the length of the process, but the meaning of the pursuit.

To fix the problem of skills, giving skills is just accelerating the real issue, which is the meaning of training the skills. Again, it is not because of tradition, but because of logic, in old times, it was clear the impression that waiting long to sit in a battleship was oh so cool. That made people want to wait. The mistake was not keep the time to get to battleships, but "balance" under the influence of so called "elite pvpers", and make the time you wait to proper fly a battleship get you a ship that is little more than a advanced cruiser that takes the same time to proper fly it.

Even science says that the wait for the reward gives more pleasure to the brain than the reward itself, provided that the reward matches the wait. What upsets people is the null gain. It wont solve the problem to get people in a Battleship in no time, if piloting it is still little more than just single digit DPS increase over a lesser number of classes.

People will gladly wait if those already there give the perception that it is worth it.

People will still quit, if they quickly can see for themselves that even the short wait gives them little to nothing.

Better investment would be to make better placement of the different classes of ship reflecting the time it takes to fly them, rather than giving it all and balancing for "anyone can fly this in no time" scenario.

I got to pilot capitals when fly a capital was "oh so epic". The wait and the expectation is better than today when if you say "I can fly a capital" in local, someone will answer "Cool, who doesnt ?".

gorski did the same - read his CZ article.

i don't need more than 2 data points. 2 people - players. it's very simple.

we objectively know new players do buy characters. we're not discussing how many do it - i'm telling you new players do it. as illustrated by the fact that two high profile characters have said so and we know new players are encouraged to do so.

i don't need a sample of 1000 to tell you it happens. i only need a sample size that big to give you an estimate of how many do.

Its been an eye opener today thats for sure.

For the life of me i cannot understand how some can think that buying a legacy character with all its foibles is in anyway like buying a pile of skill packets - create a clean slate - send said packets to new toon - instant say, tengu pilot - drop a derp a lose your lvl5 offensive/defensive tree - no prob nip back inject a couple of packs away you go again.

what a complete crock.