EVE General Discussion

You're not new, you've been here three years apparently. And you just lost a Retreiver not that long ago. That being said, this is only relevant to miners that also do building. The minerals and ore a miner provides goes more to the victims of ganking than the gankers themselves. But at this point, you're intentionally ignoring the points I'm making and refusing to adapt, which is your own problem. And since gankers go predominantly after barges and freighters, all you did is just support the argument that new player ganking isn't as proliferant as it's asserted to be by people using new players as shields for their own risk aversion. Because new players can't afford barges and freighters. Am I right?

Dude, you can continue with your blind denial of the facts people are presenting you, or you can learn something from it and become better at the game. The choice is yours. But your excuses are some of the more transparent ones around here tbqfh.

Barges aren't exactly intended for new players. That was the whole idea behind the mining frigate with the obscenely large ore hold.

For an inactive player like he is, with the knowledge that he has it is the right answer. You just don't like procurers and skiffs :)

You didn't try and then got 839457 different answers and go "wth", you chose to not even try and ask nor pay attention. You died because of your own lack of effort both in the planning phase as the execution phase. Blame yourself, learn from it, adapt. Or don't and keep dying.

I think I have the answers I was looking for.

I'm a casual player. I can scrounge together about 5 hours a week (30-60 minutes at a time) to myself. That's my time. It will take 2-3 months for me to recoup my losses. During which time I'm likely to get ganked again. It's a never ending spiral down to bankruptcy. For no other reason than someone wants to feel good about being able to hinder someone else.

I thought EVE was a game I could play a little at a time. Unlike other online games where I might need 2 hours of uninterrupted time to run a mission.

I also thought it would be the kind of game where I could mind my own business and not be bothered or go in for something more (like pvp) when I have the time. If I was a big PVP guy with unlimited time to play, I'd buy a PS4.

The gankers are pretty clear that they believe EVE would be "better" without players like me.

I posted here to see if that was a minority opinion or a prevailing one. The prevailing opinion seems to be "if you walk down the street in New Eden in broad daylight without a gun on your hip; you should expect to get mugged" PVP is a requirement; a fact of life. That's fine if that's the answer. I'm not here to try and change anyone's opinion.

I posted my questions in this thread because it's about subscriptions. CCP clearly wants old players to come back (or else I wouldn't have gotten 3 months of play time for $10). I can't speak for "everyone". But I can speak for myself and other casual players like me. We are not welcome in EVE. There is no way to avoid the noids. EVE is not the game I am looking for.

You found the answer you were looking for as part of a mission to post badly on eveo forums.

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Imagine if I only plyed an hour a week, it would take me 10-15 months!!

+1 I also resubscribed about a week ago after a 2 month absence (2 months is the longest and only time my accounts have been inactive for 10+years). Reason I took a break was because I was burnt out and starting to dislike EvE. So far been back a week and loving it again. Had my first loss on my alt last night, and it was epic, I alt tabbed in time just to watch my pod die and I must admit I nearly peed myself it was that funny .

When was I complainign that people don't have time for EVE?

EVE didn't try it and failed, they barely even got the basics in before people were freaking the **** out. And for what? Because it was taking too long? How long have citadels been in the works? How long have destructible stargates been an idea? I have no doubt that a proper attempt at WiS would be a success, not matter what the vocal monument shooting minority claim.

I don;t need to visit their intentions, they are obvious. They employ people , for money. How long do you think EVE would last if they had nothing to pay their staff or upkeep their servers? Not long mate. It's not about the money for ME, it's about the money for THEM. I would rather they improved game mechanics and widened the playerbase to make the money they need. Since the existing playerbase explodes in a fit of rage when they try that though they are going with microtrans for skins and clothing, and shifting focus to a new development. The fault for that lies with people like you.

So because the only time YOU wanted to leave is when they made the game softer, that applies to everyone does it? I've been playing for over 10 years and have more than 20 accounts, at what point does my opinion count, or does it not simply because you say so? The game may continue on, but it's a shell of what it once was. There's less developers and less players, and this will only worsen when CCP new flagship game comes out. You may want to desperately cling on the the fragments of the old EVE for nostalgias sake, but I would much rather see CCP change it for the better and bring it back to the forefront.

EVE is casual. It's a ludicrously easy game with no real challenge. You make a bunch of isk, sit yourself in some cheapass destroyers and volley noobs until the end of time. Pretending that you are somehow better than other gamers would be laughable if it weren't so sad.

Shouldn't be weird to you, as EVE has been dying for that entire time because of said non consensual pvp lol.

+2 damn it

He did inadvertently describe what EVE is, what makes it great, what has drawn many of us to it (I'm from Texas, EVE feels like home ), and what the (as Remy put it) the 'Casualificaiton" (anti-challenge) crowd wants to see destroyed. Hell, it's what CCP has been eroding for the last few years in the understandable but ultimately misguided attempt to broaden the appeal of this game.

By trying to contain/curtail the 'bad people' in the game , CCP has done nothing but nerf those of us who thrived on opposing and surviving against them without 'developer hand outs'.

You can't destroy the core appeal of a game and then be surprised when it declines...