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WHY THE JIMINY CHRISTMAS IS THE MYRMIDON MISSING A SLOT?
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Klown Walk
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2011-12-09 19:54:39 UTC
Because it doesn´t need more.
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2011-12-09 20:45:29 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:

Myrmidon:
6 Highs [ 6 Turrets ]
5 Mids
7 Lows

125mbs bandwidth
175m^3 dronebay

And it would still be the most versatile BC in the game without being OP by 50000 miles. CCP, please make this so.

-Liang



Fixed that for you...Cool
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#23 - 2011-12-09 20:52:21 UTC
Wylee Coyote wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:

Myrmidon:
6 Highs [ 6 Turrets ]
5 Mids
7 Lows

125mbs bandwidth
175m^3 dronebay

And it would still be the most versatile BC in the game without being OP by 50000 miles. CCP, please make this so.

-Liang



Fixed that for you...Cool


But it'd be so cccooooooollll... I wants it! :(

(It might also be OP - I don't know)

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2011-12-09 20:56:29 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Wylee Coyote wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:

Myrmidon:
6 Highs [ 6 Turrets ]
5 Mids
7 Lows

125mbs bandwidth
175m^3 dronebay

And it would still be the most versatile BC in the game without being OP by 50000 miles. CCP, please make this so.

-Liang



Fixed that for you...Cool


But it'd be so cccooooooollll... I wants it! :(

(It might also be OP - I don't know)

-Liang



Agreed, CCP, make it so!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#25 - 2011-12-09 21:06:16 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Wylee Coyote wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
Myrmidon:
6 Highs [ 6 Turrets ]
5 Mids
7 Lows

125mbs bandwidth
175m^3 dronebay

And it would still be the most versatile BC in the game without being OP by 50000 miles. CCP, please make this so.

-Liang
Fixed that for you...Cool


But it'd be so cccooooooollll... I wants it! :(

(It might also be OP - I don't know)
Weeeell… 49999 < 50000, so you're safe… P
Khrage
#26 - 2011-12-09 21:07:46 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
Or put in AC. You know, the Winmatar weapon, to win. AC Ferox ftw. Not so much beauty though.P


all you do is say winmatar wins wins wins no matter what
you've got duct tape on your mind you can never get enough
and everytime you say anything about eve
everybody just says yeah yeah yeah
winmatar wins
sure whatever
winmater wins
everything else sucks
cause you don't contribute at all at all at all
and if anything but rust undocks...

... i think you get my point.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#27 - 2011-12-09 21:09:48 UTC
Khrage wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
Or put in AC. You know, the Winmatar weapon, to win. AC Ferox ftw. Not so much beauty though.P


all you do is say winmatar wins wins wins no matter what
you've got duct tape on your mind you can never get enough
and everytime you say anything about eve
everybody just says yeah yeah yeah
winmatar wins
sure whatever
winmater wins
everything else sucks
cause you don't contribute at all at all at all
and if anything but rust undocks...

... i think you get my point.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Shivus Tao
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2011-12-09 21:24:27 UTC
The myrm indeed needs to be able to actually use 5 heavies again to even be useful. Medium drones don't cut it. Give it 125 bandwidth and 150 or 175 drone bay and it will be feared in the same way as the hurricane, harbinger, and drake without being overpowered.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#29 - 2011-12-09 21:33:00 UTC
Shivus Tao wrote:
The myrm indeed needs to be able to actually use 5 heavies again to even be useful. Medium drones don't cut it. Give it 125 bandwidth and 150 or 175 drone bay and it will be feared in the same way as the hurricane, harbinger, and drake without being overpowered.

Yeah… Drake-level tank + 750 DPS isn't over the top at all and actually puts it on par with the Drake…

Lol Humour.
Shivus Tao
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2011-12-09 21:35:17 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Shivus Tao wrote:
The myrm indeed needs to be able to actually use 5 heavies again to even be useful. Medium drones don't cut it. Give it 125 bandwidth and 150 or 175 drone bay and it will be feared in the same way as the hurricane, harbinger, and drake without being overpowered.

Yeah… Drake-level tank + 750 DPS isn't over the top at all and actually puts it on par with the Drake…

Lol Humour.


Shhhh

We gotta sell it in a way ccp understands.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#31 - 2011-12-09 21:35:48 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Shivus Tao wrote:
The myrm indeed needs to be able to actually use 5 heavies again to even be useful. Medium drones don't cut it. Give it 125 bandwidth and 150 or 175 drone bay and it will be feared in the same way as the hurricane, harbinger, and drake without being overpowered.

Yeah… Drake-level tank + 750 DPS isn't over the top at all and actually puts it on par with the Drake…

Lol Humour.


Who does more DPS at 70km? :P

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#32 - 2011-12-09 21:40:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Liang Nuren wrote:
Who does more DPS at 70km? :P
That would still be the übermyrm, but with a slightly different fit.

Still, at that point, Naga. Twisted
Aamrr
#33 - 2011-12-09 21:42:03 UTC
I believe an Oracle would out-damage a Naga at that distance.
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2011-12-09 21:42:03 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Shivus Tao wrote:
The myrm indeed needs to be able to actually use 5 heavies again to even be useful. Medium drones don't cut it. Give it 125 bandwidth and 150 or 175 drone bay and it will be feared in the same way as the hurricane, harbinger, and drake without being overpowered.

Yeah… Drake-level tank + 750 DPS isn't over the top at all and actually puts it on par with the Drake…

Lol Humour.


Who does more DPS at 70km? :P

-Liang



To be a bit more fair, how much dps is any myrm (current or proposed unnerfed) doing out to or even past warp disruptor range... Sad
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2011-12-09 21:47:40 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
Who does more DPS at 70km? :P
That would still be the übermyrm, but with a slightly different fit.

Still, at that point, Naga. Twisted



Never seen sentries used in pvp, i guess it's possible, unless you're talking about pve, in which case what the hell are we talking about pve for?
Goose99
#36 - 2011-12-09 23:56:28 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Shivus Tao wrote:
The myrm indeed needs to be able to actually use 5 heavies again to even be useful. Medium drones don't cut it. Give it 125 bandwidth and 150 or 175 drone bay and it will be feared in the same way as the hurricane, harbinger, and drake without being overpowered.

Yeah… Drake-level tank + 750 DPS isn't over the top at all and actually puts it on par with the Drake…

Lol Humour.


Who does more DPS at 70km? :P

-Liang


The "drake lvl tank" is niche active rep that's extremely vulnerable to neut and increasing worthless as blob size grows.

The "750 dps" is at short range with unbonused guns with most of it being drones that get killed, that is, if you remove dual/trip rep tank to fit dmg mods to buff those unbonused gun dps.

Even with 75mbit bandwidth increased to 125, Myrm is still crap outside of very specialized niche, under specialized situations.
Manar Detri
#37 - 2011-12-10 00:07:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Manar Detri
I really don't see anything wrong with giving taht 125mb and seventh lowslot, would actually make it rather fun. But i do say there ought to be no extra pg/cpu for the slot. And tbh, a triple repper would only rep 800 dps without implants and nor boosters and put out a measly 600 dps, which isn't all that much ;)

Or if you prefer passive, you could slap a 105k ehp tank on it ;P
Buzzmong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2011-12-10 00:31:38 UTC
Surely the Myrm's missing slot would be better off being given to the Brutix instead?
Rawls Canardly
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2011-12-10 15:47:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Rawls Canardly
a utility high would be nice on the myrmidon, outside of that I can't see a reason to add more to it.
edit- or take one slot from the other boats. and add a mid or low to the t1 bc's...
Emily Poast
The Whipping Post
#40 - 2011-12-10 18:15:43 UTC
Buzzmong wrote:
Surely the Myrm's missing slot would be better off being given to the Brutix instead?


This! One extra low please.