EVE General Discussion

Best long term tactics is still to just let them take the space, then keep griefing them by spawning loads of nodes until they give up and leave.

If the indexes are high it'll take an hour to reinforce the ihub/station/TCU. If nobody can be bothered to drive off the hostile interceptor or other ship in their space in that time frame (which everyone would want to anyway because ratting with a neut in local is a bad idea) then what are they doing?

If indexes are low, yes, there will be tons of nodes spawning. But then you aren't using that space, so why do you want it?
Harassment is the best way to take space, but it's more difficult to harass space that is actually useful to the owners.

Because they do NOT WANT TO become huge. The vast majority of peopel that leave null sec do it because they do nto want to be in HUGE groups where they are nameless drones.

Wrong way around.

You miss the point. It is not hard to kill a ceptor, just as it is not hard to kill a fw farmer. Its just unfun to do so. Making it mandatory to kill a small, throw away ship, over and over again is the definition of unfun.

Eureka, everybody have discoreved the powder plans.

Fozzie´s sov = Low sec FW

Guess that was obvious when CCP releases that, but people, as always, try to see what dosent exist.
CCP have reduced their funds and of course servers have been reduced too, so its just not possible to them to suatain a 5.000 player battle in the same system with tons of drones etc, its no fun at all when someone enters that system and get freezed for 10 ou more minutes. So they have to do something to split the palyers and end that big battles turning them into small roams.
However FW is not the best choice from far, but guess that was lazzy from the dev´s or they just want to give quickly content on pvp just because to many people are tired to shoot structures and want some change.

Before people stay docked and dosent show up to fight, now they do the same or the attacker´s do it.
Before the capital nerf, roaming people have some to shoot near, now they have to fly empty and empty systems with nobody there or if is someone, probably is an hs explorer, no pvp at all except in a few systems.

WH´s are dead, nobody cares about them, theres a few corps living there but nothing compared to what it was 2 years ago, thats why they put some sleeper data sites in hs, low sec and null, however they have been nerf this sites, and now the riks dosent worth the effort to find them and run them.

Guess CCP as to realise first, that EVE is a game, EVE dosent pay the RL bills, players as RL and they work, most of the players has 2/4 hours a day to play, if they have to spend all that time on defending their sov, so its fair to say that they have to pay for the month and then pay for some plexes to sell on market to buy ships, modules and whatever they need.

Now they talk about citadels that can be destroyed. This is another big mistake or better, another shot on their foot. The citadels seems to me that they will be what null sec stations now shloud be years ago. If hs stations as weapons and police to defend them, null sec stations should have waepons too.

Mining Structures, lol, guess what, theres no miners anymore, they get tired and warpout to another free game.

CCP wants new players, but i guess the magic formula has been lost 3 or 4 years ago, first they have to keep all the players happy, not only a few ones, then those happy players are going to bring some friends and the comercials does the rest.
Changes are needed yes, but not too many changes at one time and specially not to many impopular changes.

I actually have an inkling of pity for you.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/memberCount

Find your alliance.

Wardec / invade the sov holding entity above yours.

If they are blue, please "adapt".

I only said please. There was no mandate. Your play time is your responsibility mate

Ugly, forget that.

Nobody wnats to see their daily activities constantly disrupted everyday.
The unused space you refer, should be the one´s that nobody wants rigth? Those -0.1 -0.2 systems.
Some years ago all the systems provide good ratting, and good explorer/combat sites, now its only the true sec ones.
When CCP put the anomalies by constellation instead of the upgraded system, nobody buy those upgrades, specially just because the upgraded system has none amomalies and they are given anomalies to others.
I´ve upgraded one system once and in 3 months i get 3 anomalies and 2 of them was low sec anomalies, but the other systems on constellation has 3/4 anomalies everydays, do you think that is fair? I dont think so, for me the previous version was very good, you upgrade your system, you collect that benefit, not others. The same are applied for the quantum flux generators however this special one´s upgrades should be visible for all corps in the alliance or remove them from the ihub and make a new structure/beacon, you put them in your system, should be only your problem and not others problem.

People are just not going null with this fozzies´s troll sov mechanics, its not the players, its the mechanics.

2 years ago you have huge fights, big losses, now you have small fights and ridiculous losses, just frigs, ceptors and some cruisers. You think its better now? Ok, if so enjoy it, I dont think that way.

Even if they unnerf the capitals or at least the sub capitals just to allow transports from null to hs and vice-versa, people just not go on null due this sov mechanics, they prefer the wild farwest of hs. Better to stay in hs with nothing to lose and go on null just to disrupt activities just for troll, thats what this new sov mechanics is, troll sov. If you cant make money on null, you cant afford to pay your sov bills and you cant have ships to fight, of course unless you buy plexes and sell them on market.

Many people like to shoot things, many people likes to mine, many people likes to explore, many people likes pve and the many people that only makes pvp, thinks that all the players should do the same as they do. Why? What if CCP makes a new expansion where there are no pvp at all, the pvpeers aren´t going to be happy with that right?
The fun of this game are on you can do whatever you want, pvp, pve, mine, explorer and so on, some say pvp is not fun, ok they have other activities they can do, anothers say mine is not fun, thats ok too, theres more activities, why should everything resumes on the end to pvp? Its cool i like it but theres much more then that.

Mobility are needed on this game, there´s no mobility and even if the troll sov change to something much better and fair, people are not going to move into null, they just cant move their assets, and with the ghost of the new destructible citadels aproaching, forget, no one wants to go there and lose their assets.

If a small alliance takes less used systems, they set themselves up to be farmed and griefed.
It suits the large alliances that live nearby.

How long before that scorpion is hot dropped?