Wormholes

Very good, thanks.

Chart: http://i.imgur.com/4RGrhTm.png

Changeover was 7/7. There was a sharp drop on 9th and 10th. Lowest data point was 10th but then the highest data point was the 13th.

Need more time to determine frequency change because there is too much disturbance from behaviour-driven factors (e.g. sov change and perhaps null groups stopped looking for holes after the patch.

I reckon the J-space facing holes (i.e. not null-null) have dropped about 10% but that's just a guess. Null-null were nerfed hard.

K162 are not generic. K162 is the wormhole endpoint

That means that the K162 can be any of the following (on the other side for C5/6 Wh's)

N432/Z142

Z132's are wandering C5 > Null Statics
N432 is the reverse where the origin point is in K-Space Null.
C248 were C6 > Null 48hr WH's.

Low Sec > Null = S199 and those were also nerfed

Here's a CHART

Now you don't have to be completely ignorant - although I hear it is rather blissful.

The nerf has destroyed C5/C6 space for those that like to roam nulls. Its great for Krabs though.

How much is too much though?
By the same token you can say that C6ers were "too spoiled with just having to look for C5 chain to go to null", connectivity of which got nerfed.

Anyway, this again comes down to what I think was the issue with EVE a few years ago and maybe still is: places that are good for finding PvP are bad ones to gather resources for said PvP, forcing people to alt or at least move a lot. While it sounds kinda natural, high class WHs were in unique position of providing both opportunities, being almost perfect for both (given right system) at a price of providing lesser ability to influence stuff like political map and most market segments (for those who care about such things).

I'm not really convinced that making sure every nook of space is flawed to live in is the best sounding idea.

Holy mother of non issues batman!
Even if you had to scan out to HS every time and head to the nearest NS from there, it would STILL be easy to get to NS from any WH class.

On the other hand, if you miss NS so much, maybe it's time to move there? (Or at least Thera which is actually exactly what you want.)

The sense of entitlement from large WH groups is nauseating.
Need to be completely safe in our farming.
No PVP allowed in C6s, that's where we farm.
Much have zero effort access to NS at all times, preferably just spawn the WHs right next to the ratting Nyxs kthnx...

I'm not really sure why it needs to keep being said but wspace is NOT nullsec. Maybe if you want full time access to nullsec, you should think about how to do that, rather than just b!tch and moan about it on the forums, when you KNOW CCP will not do anything to appease you.
Trust me, they really wont! no matter how hard you cry about it.

Yeah, have to admit that the first thing I did was check eve-scout.com. Still half a dozen null connections (maybe they are static - I forget?) which is great.

I am going to go against the grain here with this one and while i realise my opinion means **** all and is usually frowned upon but just like i always do i am going to give it anyway.

So for far too long people have lived in the gravy train of WH ISK and filled their time with the endless null roams. So OP are the limitless amounts of null connections that you can very literally with a roll or two cherry pick the null region you want to target, and groups literally do do this.

This is definitely going to close the gaps on noobs spreadsheet that doesn't have a filter for WH space and k-space kills. People saying that their content and fun is now gone should realise that WH space should have been a better source of your content/fun. I do think though that people have always gone to null roaming as one of there first options of things to do because of lack of ways to create content in wh space though.

I am not saying people shouldn't roam null at all, it is a great option and i am only saying what we had was far to OP.

I think the only downside to this is honestly the lack of options it will have for people in WH space to move caps around combined with jump changes.

Or move into a C3 with K346, C2 with N062/E545 or R474/E545, or C1 with Z060. The Man can't hold your static closed on you! Fight the system!

Oh, wait, C5 krab isk buckets too tempting.

you are trying to argument that removed content is somehow good for the game.
People didnt roam null because WH space was full of content, they roamed null in lack of it.

Couldn't have worded this any better.

it is removed pvp.
For null entities WH highway was a neat way to get across null for content for example.
Same for WH entities - null exits were a way to find content/fights.

By removing these connections there wont be magically more content in WH space, quite the contrary - WH space will become even more of desert empty space due to removed content and more complicated logistics.
Null-C5 was a way to bring in caps into WH, just to tell one, alrady severely handicapped by Phoebe.



can be, null space was a chunk of additional stuff accessible from WH on top of its own scarce WH content, which is gone.


Whats wrong with easy and cheap? If you take people easy and cheap thrills, why is it any good?
Forcing people into hassle and effort by taking them options never worked, they are more likely to simply go away and stop bothering. All tha being said - you removed content, you removed more people from WH space, you added safety for null farmers. Why is all that good?


maybe WH duders are tired of set up and pointless arranged WH fights for years already. For me, I always wondered whats the attraction of consensual wh pvp.