EVE New Citizens Q&A

So will I have a hard time finding a corp if I don't want to give out my full API? Yes I realize it is read-only and "safe".

Yeah if they're in anyway competent they assume you're trying to infiltrate and gut their Corp.

If you aren't then you may want to reconsider your stance on it.

Oh I have no problem providing a limited API. I understand that I have to provide something for the safety of the corp and to gain their trust. But trust is a two way street and it seems the corp someone is applying to does not have to do much to gain the trust of the person applying.

My problem with full APIs doesn't have to do with identity theft or anything to do with my account, it has to do with in game privacy. I can see people dictating skill plans and things like that and basically playing the game for me.

Maybe I am too much of a loner lol.

You should be able to get by with an API that does not include in game mail. However most other stuff is pretty important to them.

As far as trust being a two way street it just isn't. There is no in game mechanic that allows your corp to steal everything out of all of your hangars and clean out your wallet. There is no in game mechanic that allows your corp to go out and ring up damages that you will be held accountable for. However the inverse of that is true.

The simple fact is that the way this game is structured is that for most corps each player that they take on introduces a fair amount of risk. For the player however there is no risk at all. Sure you can get scammed out of isk or your stuff or what not by some people as part of joining their corp but that has nothing to do with in game mechanics. If you pay someone to join their corp or hand over all of your stuff to someone with no collateral to "haul it" all for you and you loose your stuff that is just a scam. They could scam you that way independent of joining their corp.

I have to admit I would not be thrilled about having to hand over my info to someone just to join their corp but the simple fact of the matter is that if I were looking for a corp right now I would not join one that did not do extensive background checks which included APIs that show everything but eve mails. The reason for this is that it keeps out a large portion of the people that I would rather not join the corp that I am in and I can't rightly ask others to do what I am not willing to do myself.

So I'd give the API so that I could be in a corp which requires APIs. The benefit that I get is reduced amount of war decs and Awoxers, and drama queen pot stirrers.

If you are joining a high sec corp that is recruiting and does not require API checks then you will amost certainly be perma war deced or at least for the duration of the recruitment period plus a week or two afterwards.

If you join a null sec corp that does not require API checks you can expect lots of spies and awoxers that will likely lead to you loosing ships under questionable circumstances and just in general a reduced fun factor.

As far as low sec corps I'm not familiar with the mechanics so there is not much I can say about that.

my standard answer when people try to tell me what to train and when is: when you pay for my subscription, then and only then can you dictate my training queue.

API key is like a lock on your car. If you left your phone in there and left it unlocked, they'll just take the phone. If you lock it; they'll smash the window and take it anyway. Now you have two problems.

Dumb analogy

My point is - the good ones (spies) will still get in anyway. I think API keys are just to keep the bad spies out. They'll be able to see everything is all.

Corps with API requirements must have something worth taking.

So long as I could fly something for each of a corps or alliances doctrine, surely there's no problem?

As I'm still a newbie, the great festering mountain known as "core fitting, engineering and navigation skills" needs to be climbed before I start looking anywhere near fancy, high SP requirement doctrine ships.

This.

You don't play the game for the corp or it's leadership, you play it for yourself.

Apply to a corp who gets it and doesn't run their doctrines like anal retents, which is usually the smaller corps. The flip side? If they want you in specific doctrine flying as a drone for their ops then they better provide those ops consistently along with full SRP each time you lose a ship. Goes both ways.

As for API, don't join a corp who demands full, non-expiring API. Why would you want to fly beside paranoid people who don't trust you even to be on grid with them without reading your mails or browsing your contacts?

Groups like that who want all your inside info along with you following precise skill training are more like employers, so unless they're offering significant regular ISK pay cheques (or pay your sub) why bother?

So long as I could fly something for each of a corps or alliances doctrine, surely there's no problem?

As I'm still a newbie, the great festering mountain known as "core fitting, engineering and navigation skills" needs to be climbed before I start looking anywhere near fancy, high SP requirement doctrine ships.[/quote]

well, generally speaking, it may be a problem... If you are able fly only half of the doctrines it means you aren't able to fly the other half.

The best thing you can do is to find a corp which flies the ships and fits you enjoy the most.
Drago Shouna and Savi'eska are right in the way it's your gameplay so it's you who should decide what you want to fly. But there is the other side of it too - you are joining some corp which had it's doctrines long before you ever show up. If you doesn't like it, if you doesn't want fly that particular setup, then don't join them. It's that "easy";-)

Does not compute.