Player Features and Ideas Discussion

its almost like there is a new mod that is designed to enhance the torps to be more precise and go longer range...

+1

Please remove links!

"None what-so-ever" in this context was polite sarcasm, i.e. I was emphasizing that the question was covered in the original post. Probably should have gone with "Nope, none whatsoever" instead.

Or maybe, "none whatsoever" in this context implies a lack of faith in CCP's determination in overcoming the technical issues, thus implying that MGEs/MGCs will remain "overpowered" for the long haul. So, still sarcasm.


/always_have_more_than_one_reason_for_doing_something...

Of course. Ive often wondered whether my missiles are getting the effect of a painter if its activated after the missiles were already in flight. That is, does the server calculate the explosion effects on launch and just apply them when they reach the target or does it do a recalculation on impact. Turning these missile tracking enhancing mods on after launch could then also become problematical for the server.


No I didn't. That is why I alliterated the soon.


While I hate ecm and what it does currently. It would not be a fix to change it to what you suggest. ECM has a valid use as a counter to logi and remote effects.

TD makes more sense since the TD boats are not used much anyway.

But at least you were thinking creatively. I presented a thread about an option to give painters an anti drone control effect, control range or less likely tracking on them. All I got was flames. But Im still of the opinion that that could work. A painted ship could be so electromagnetically lit up that it would interfere with the base control range, Drone Link Augmenters, and/or Omni effects. And likewise, dedicated painter boats are not used as much as the Damp or ECM boats.

edit : defenders suck, and always will. and if ever they somehow didn't they would still require a launcher slot which many ships do not have.

I am 90% certain that target-related values (target velocity, signature radius, resists, etc.) are calculated at impact. This would include the target being painted, webbed, running a prop mod, etc.

As for the missile buffing mods, in order to get the full benefit of the velocity/flight time bonuses, they would have to be applied at launch. Since it doesn't make much sense to me to have a module apply some of its bonuses at launch and some at impact, I'm guessing that the missile explosion velocity and explosion radius bonuses would be applied at launch as well.

This last bit is pure speculation mind you.

EDIT: Clarified the first bit.

I think the fitting is actually reasonable for the smaller sized ships like the jackdaw. It gives players the opportunity to make actual choices on their fits for missile boats as opposed to "active vs passive".

I suspect these are unscripted.

With Missiles these stats come in pairs: explosion radius/velocity for application and missile velocity/flight time for range. So MGE II is equivalent to having +13% range and +13% application. While a TE gives +10% optimal +20% falloff and +9.5% tracking.

Scripted MGC II **could be** : +38% range or application
Scripted TC II: +15% Optimal and +30% falloff or +30% tracking

Jams work quite well I find.

Jams will counter missiles.

HMs do not need a direct damage increase.

They need you to revert the 12% reduction in explosion radius done in 2012 sometime. Thats it.

Presently even with application mods in Rigs, HMs are losing nearly 40% of their DPS in application vs Turrets who lose only around 30% (arties 35%) using only 1 Tracking Comp + Tracking Speed.

Just remove the explosion radius change, so HMs can hit similar application numbers. Their peak DPS and Alpha are fine.