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When will you give us the option to turn off these icons?

I'm playing less and less.

Original forum post

This post will contain the results of an after-patch poll about new icons usability as well as feedback and opinions gathered throughout the topic.

Tl;dr: More than 540 people voted and more than 65% of players found themselves uncomfortable with the new icons. Be it solo, small-gang or crowd activities, both pvp or pve.

|| Link To Russian Poll Thread ||

Describe your impressions and experience using the overview with the new icon system:

1. Liked new icons a lot. The overview’s now more informative. – 37 votes, [6,16 %]
2. Nicely done. Though need time to get used to. – 110 votes [18,30 %]
3. No difference for me. – 54 votes [8,99 %]
4. Didn’t like new icons. “Bring back familiar red crosses!” – 121 votes [20,13 %]
5. Strongly disliked. “Give us an option to switch for old icons” – 279 votes [46,42 %]

The answers for 1 and 2 are counted as positive, 3 is neutral while 4 and 5 are considered negative game experience with new icons.

Generalized opinions and feedback.



Feel free to skip this section if you read and posted in Icons and General Carnyx Feedback threads.

Pros.

– Gate guns and station sentry icons are nice.
– Sun is cute.
– New ship icons are fine.
– Frigate are now considered wrecks. Good, good.
– Frozen corpse icon is definitely a win.
– PvE feels okish.

Neutral.

– Most of problems would be gone if there is an ability to switch overview for familiar icon set.
– Why don’t you use ISIS icon set for ships? A lot of new bros are using ISIS and feel familiar with it.
– New icons are mostly fine. Though become unreadable when the whole overview is targeting (locking) your ship. You might think of new target lock bracket.

Cons.

– Strong dislike of new drone icons, they look clumsy in both overview and space. Familiar diagonal cross icon was simple and nice.
– New icon set looks over detailed and complicated for people with eye problems. Smaller icons’ elements seems just unreadable for these people.
– Icons are hardly recognizable with GUI scaling other that 100% and user monitors other than Full HD high resolution.
– Capsuleers have to carefully read and search overview within “type” and “name” columns instead of quick icon eye contact. That cost them seconds which is critical in pvp engagements.
– Many players faced problems finding desired objects in space. The old eye algorithm was “Distance - Icon (type) - Desired target is somewhere there – Check name”. Unique and rare overview objects were easily eye-catched and now they are not. This goes especially for sun, mobile warp disruptors, cans, wrecks and beacons.
– Being tackled by wreck is confusing. As well as being targeted by SBU.
– A lot of struggle with new wreck icons (unreadable, unrecognizable if empty or not).
– Hard to quickly tell who’s a live capsuleer and who’s the NPC or a jetcan. The familiar “square vs cross” bracket difference should not be touched.
– PvP pilots now spend drastically more time trying to recognize the situation. They have to stare at overview for mere seconds to link visual information with overview data.
– Several pilots are afraid to undock.
– Familiar “square” icons defined 4 principal ship size groups which completely differ from each others (in terms of functions and size). Current icon system is not providing such fast differentiation.

I've noticed a trend over the recent years of CCP working to remove as much utility space from our screens as possible. Making the minimum size of windows larger, text larger, etc. This ends up in situations where people have increasingly less "space scene" on their display, and more "internet spreadsheets".

If they want to break away from that stereotype they need to upgrade the UI, and not by making things bigger. There was a nice pic shown at 2014 fanfest that showed a modern/futuristic UI that didn't look like spreadsheets in space, but we haven't heard a peep about it since.

First off let me address why they canned the ISIS icons in the overview... they HAD to be compared to the other icons to know what was what. The differences between ship classes were way too subtle.

Second, the new icons are not mostly fine. Perhaps sections of icons are fine'ish if held up completely isolated, but they are rarely in such conditions. The issue is that in a vast number of common situations you can have very similar looking icons for a handful of completely different types of icons (celestials, structures, ships, wrecks etc) that are difficult to discern unless you have committed all 300 (or more, i don't know, its a crapload for sure) some odd individual icons to memory. And there are plenty of specific instances within each class that are terribad... cruisers are nearly identical to dreads, 5 different frigate class icons, 12 different container icons... and dozens of icon swaps between completely unrelated items between the old and the new.

Just canceled 3 accounts, once my remaining time is up I may not resub if or when the icons are fixed, it depends on how I feel long term about how Eve is being handled now-a-days, I'm an older guy with not so good eyesight so I'm not going to pay money to play a game that is now unplayable for me.

Monday nite local time. Zero response from a CCP personage since the 'get used to them' memo days before.

Are you serious? 'Cuz I am, and many others in this threadnaught are as well.

'Classic Icon' option, or just roll this mess back for a better Test Feedback Thread sniff check (that won't be outright ignored as the last one was!), this stinks.

>Jeven

Couple days into the thread-dec, W3D0 vs. CCP, they're still not undocking.

Thanks for taking the time to cross-post & translate from eve-ru forum. I am not complaining and will get used to them, if CCP doesn't change the icons, but I see valuable feedback and ideas in this poll summary. Nice work!

I still keep giving these a go, the odd hour here and there. Still cant get used to them, and whats even more worrying for me, eye strain and slight headaches have appeared this past week.

At least Elite Dangerous is around to cure my space thirst.

I'm not going to pay for my subscription alt character.
CCP Congratulations: designers reduce your money. real sweeeeeet money.
return back to the old overview icons

what probably CCP think about us :

We realize it may be an inconvenience to you and we hope you'll voice all your concerns to us because at CCP the customer is always our bit*h.

lol now u are just trolling us... http://i.imgur.com/qbiHBCd.png "so u cant see the icons, i show them"

what it say http://i.imgur.com/iSeY1ev.png

User Interface:

NPC Fighters should now have the proper overview bracket attached to them.
Holding button for the "Look At" shortcut shows the correct icon on players ship.
Goru's Shuttle, Guristas Shuttle and Rattlesnake Victory Edition brackets should now be properly updated.
Noctis, Industrial Ships and the Orca should now have proper icons in the Interbus Ship Identification System (ISIS).
Supercarrier bracket icons should now be properly displaying their respective ships.
Industrial ship brackets have been fixed to properly match their own ship types instead of mining barges.