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Carnyx release - General feedback

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Captain Pada
Pangas Business Consortium
#121 - 2015-06-02 14:58:09 UTC
Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#122 - 2015-06-02 14:58:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Moac Tor
This thread seems a little dramatic; from the responses you would have thought the world was ending. I'm using the icons on 90% and it isn't that bad, as in I can perfectly discern one from another quite easily.

Also the new shaders are great, although one thing is there seems to be a delay in them appearing on the ship, so you are greeted with a black model initially when viewing them.
Dj Urri
SevLite Enterprises Inc.
#123 - 2015-06-02 14:58:56 UTC
Steijn wrote:
Blood Enslaver wrote:
You people really are afraid of learning new things.


when more than 1 icon looks the same as another 1, how do you learn which is which? Please explain to me.



Not to mention for people who dont have perfect vision.

I just undocked in Jita and this looks like 2 types of symbols... triangles and squares thats it and honestly i can not differentiate between anything else. (if there is anything else to it, i just cant see it).


ccp could you please just do a 2nd thinking before going with such rubbish ideas ?
Braddock1
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#124 - 2015-06-02 15:00:11 UTC
The New Overfew Icons are bad and confusing , Further more there is a problem with the drone damage bar it shows the shield Dmg on the second bar where the Armor dmg should be.
Big Lynx
#125 - 2015-06-02 15:01:04 UTC
Overview Icons = eye bleed
Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#126 - 2015-06-02 15:01:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Moac Tor
Dj Urri wrote:
Not to mention for people who dont have perfect vision.

I just undocked in Jita and this looks like 2 types of symbols... triangles and squares thats it and honestly i can not differentiate


And before we just had crosses, so now you have two symbols which is an improvement over before..
Faruzen en Divalone
Newbie Friendly Industries
CeskoSlovenska Aliance
#127 - 2015-06-02 15:02:01 UTC
Don Pera Saissore wrote:
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66945/1/UIModernization_Blog_Screenshot.jpg

Can we have this plz


Isnt it almost the same as it is right now after the update? Its practically the same! You criticize just to criticize i think.
Steijn
Quay Industries
#128 - 2015-06-02 15:02:19 UTC
Moac Tor wrote:
Dj Urri wrote:
[quote=Steijn][quote=Blood Enslaver]Not to mention for people who dont have perfect vision.

I just undocked in Jita and this looks like 2 types of symbols... triangles and squares thats it and honestly i can not differentiate.

And before we just had crosses, so now you have two symbols which is an improvement over before.


the crosses were distinguishable as different sizes, the new icons arent.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#129 - 2015-06-02 15:02:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
Nevermind.™

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
ForceM
POS Builder Inc.
#130 - 2015-06-02 15:04:50 UTC
Noone noticed the eve cache folder went on a binging spree and grew to over 18 Gig ?????

I remember before the change to the "cache setup" it was closer to 10 then to 11 gig on a clean install.

Speaking of bloatware!!!
John WarpingSlow
#131 - 2015-06-02 15:05:38 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Something I noticed with the icons: Combat ship T2 variants have a bar under their triangle (at least frigs/destroyers/cruisers/battlecruisers have, not sure about BS), why don't T2 variants of indus ships have the bar under their icon?


That's the nice thing about standards, there are so many to choose from.

Obligatory XKCD comic: Standards
Erinn Knight
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#132 - 2015-06-02 15:07:04 UTC
icons are great, people just need to get used to them.
Sexual White Chocolate
N.A.G.A Too
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#133 - 2015-06-02 15:09:10 UTC
Erinn Knight wrote:
icons are great, people just need to get used to them.


I wouldn't know, still can't get the game to load. I haven't been able to get logged in to see the changes.
Faruzen en Divalone
Newbie Friendly Industries
CeskoSlovenska Aliance
#134 - 2015-06-02 15:12:26 UTC
Sexual White Chocolate wrote:
Erinn Knight wrote:
icons are great, people just need to get used to them.


I wouldn't know, still can't get the game to load. I haven't been able to get logged in to see the changes.


Dont cry, you will get there eventually.
Mysa
EVIL PLANKTON
#135 - 2015-06-02 15:14:40 UTC
What happend to these? http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/ui-modernization-icon-strategy/?_ga=1.207907346.1880404380.1433256737

This is development! The ones thats live now are... yea w.t.f are they? Shuttle Icon looks like a crawlning worm, triangel ship Icons whit bars underneth them for ship seizes?!?!?! Are they made whit an old atari 00.0003 bit system? The stargate Icon is not even round, its like somethin thats been made up in windows paint by them finnish mongolids that sang in eurovision ffs!

SoloFoLife! -KEKE the Merlin wonder
Sexual White Chocolate
N.A.G.A Too
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#136 - 2015-06-02 15:17:42 UTC
Faruzen en Divalone wrote:
Sexual White Chocolate wrote:
Erinn Knight wrote:
icons are great, people just need to get used to them.


I wouldn't know, still can't get the game to load. I haven't been able to get logged in to see the changes.


Dont cry, you will get there eventually.


I'm not crying, merely pointing out that a patch that I never wanted, asked for, or needed, has made a game that previously worked just fine, completely unplayable for me now. So as one might imagine, I am slightly perturbed.
Egor Bathana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#137 - 2015-06-02 15:18:52 UTC
I cant do private contracts. No matter what name i put in there, it cant be found.. :/
John WarpingSlow
#138 - 2015-06-02 15:20:43 UTC  |  Edited by: John WarpingSlow
Egor Bathana wrote:
I cant do private contracts. No matter what name i put in there, it cant be found.. :/


I had that problem yesterday - solution was logging out and logging in again - try that.

Update: Checked my thread in Issues and logging out/in didn't work for some people.

If you're still having the issue, follow up in that thread and hopefully something will be done. Good luck.
Natya Mebelle
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#139 - 2015-06-02 15:24:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Natya Mebelle
Eli Stan wrote:
I spent a few hours over the weekend PvPing on SISI and found the new icons useful for telling different ship types apart when looking at the battlefield. Much better than differently sized squares.

While this is true, it still does not solve the issue that some icons are not as clear cut as others and too similar when there are lots of different ship types around. There are also more things to Eve than just PvP. Sharing the same kind of icons with NPCs, and also having icons which are too similar to each other is not going to help anyone in the long run. Look at neutral NPC icons. Can you tell what is a player, and what is an NPC just by icon alone? No, you can not.

There are even not enough distinctions between Tech1 and Tech2 ships on an icon level. So again, we are not even half there.

I do not want to congratulate CCP on a change that causes more bad things than good ones.


Mysa wrote:
What happend to these? http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/ui-modernization-icon-strategy/?_ga=1.207907346.1880404380.1433256737

If I remember correctly, these have been scrapped because of bad player feedback, because the icons where not distinguishable enough from one another, and insert 90% UI scaling here too. They scrapped the old one, but I'm at a loss for words how they could think the new one is that much better...
Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#140 - 2015-06-02 15:27:42 UTC
John WarpingSlow wrote:
Egor Bathana wrote:
I cant do private contracts. No matter what name i put in there, it cant be found.. :/


I had that problem yesterday - solution was logging out and logging in again - try that.

Update: Checked my thread in Issues and logging out/in didn't work for some people.

If you're still having the issue, follow up in that thread and hopefully something will be done. Good luck.

Yes I just had the same issue and reclogging fixed it.