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The icons and alliance logo things pain my soul. Please give those a once over, these features need to be brought back to the drawing board.

Cant play this game anymore because of new icons!
Give us back old icons.

I mean, look at this. Show this to an independent UX/UI professional and ask them what their reactions are.
https://puu.sh/ielys/69f788c875.png
That's not a hypothetical situation, I am looking at that in space right now.

Overview is actually one of the only 2 areas that already have an option to use smaller fonts (the other is the chat window - for mysterious reasons it won't let you use a smaller font on the user list tho).

There is one good point, and that is the introduction of icons/brackets for things that previously had none, like 'Biomass'; this makes it easier to avoid being decloaked by such objects. Anything that can decloak you should have an icon, in my opinion.

Illuminati confirmed

let's bring them back and forget this ever happened..mmmkay?

... and the aggravation continues ... the new icons are something I know personally I will *NEVER* get used to ... its just too much going on; and I refer to my previous post AND continue to stand strong on that post ... sorry CCP this just isnt working for me ...

Serious Human Considerations


... i recently moved out of hisec and into lowsec in order to expand my gameplay and get into things i have never gotten into before in EvE ... but after the introduction of the new icons, i have returned to hisec and find myself going backwards in my gameplay desires.

... i no longer wish to escalate my play, like moving into null, because the game has become less interesting and just more of a pain in the arse ...

... recently i find myself in another game more and more, and those elf boots and magic sticks are slowly becoming fun again ... omg what is wrong with me ... oh wait, ITS NOT ME!

Oh dear, there are a lot of things I want to address... there goes my lunch break :c This will need to be broken up into more than one post.

For everyone who wants to push multiple sets of icons to choose from, you have not thought this through. It is a BAD idea. Here is why:
The more sets exist in the client, the more icons are required to be maintained in future patches, and the more icons need to be created for NEW entity types. This will inevitably lead to a point where one set is designing itself into a corner, when another one is still doing fine. What are you going to do by then? Scrap one set saying "it is not feasible any more" only to have people shout all over the place again why their favourite set is gone?
You have to view the bigger picture in this. One set is all we need, but this set needs to be functional. introducing multiple sets now is a bandaid solution that is not going to get us anywhere. There would be no problems if the newly introduced set of icons was BETTER.

Now, I'd love to conduct a test here, because I'm not sure if creating a different topic in the sea of raised fists would help the issue, or make it worse.

Question 1: What do you really NEED to improve the OLD set of icons? I guess it mostly comes down to a distinction between destroyer / frigate and cruiser / battlecruiser as well as being able to see a difference between Capitals and battleships, and of course the industrial / barge / Freighter area. But I'm pretty sure there are more things hidden.

Question 2: Did you ever had a problem with certain types not having an icon? Like, did it make you feel the game is lacking and incomplete and thus cheap? For me, personally, it was an indicator of only important things get an icon, the rest doesn't matter. So if I want to look for something in the unimportant non-icon category, I look at the type column.

Question 3: Do you really need a distinction between all the kinds of different drones, batteries, containers and facilities or would you only need a distinction for some? Like, is this a deciding factor that would save your life in a fight or would make it easier for you to locate a service?

Question 4: Regardless of old or new icon set, would an option to customize colour the icons itself by certain rough types helpful for you? I would think about 3 distinctions. Celestials (everything NOT having an affiliation), Player entities (this includes ships, anchorables and structures) and NPC entities (this includes ships, anchorables and structures.)

Question 5: Would you appreciate a general idea of an Overview mechanic rework? That would allow the targeting brackets and colour tags to be outsourced to either side of the icon, making full use of the icon real estate. Low quality example of double tags and with single tags.
Another thing would be having more tabs than 5, and the ability to mark one tab as "auxiliary overview", which opens a second instance of the overview window with that tab selection.

I'm still not sure if opening a new topic about those questions would be useful or not.

Has there been any word from CCP on their take on the feedback provided on the new icons? Are we at the stage like we were with turret icons yet? Where we roll back to something that at least worked?