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Absolutely.

The wheels of progress turn slowly.... and sometimes in the wrong direction.

We'll see what news next week brings.

I vividly recall the bollockings I received (when working as a developer) and also gave (when working in support and later as QA and release manager). Once the mess was all cleaned up and the customer was happy again, we'd all head down the pub and forgive eachother in traditional fashion. It's important to be able to make and recover from mistakes, if you're always afraid of ******* up then you'll never reach your potential.

Initially I thought I liked the new icons. I applauded CCP for keeping things fresh and trying to improve things.Indeed there are some of them that I still do, but the more I've played instead of getting used to them they've just become increasingly confusing.

There are just WAY too many triangular shapes. Upsidedown, rightside up, a triangle with a dot in the middle, a triangle with a dot on the top. Trying to rapidly locate wrecks, FW complexs and pretty much anything that has been given a triangle icon in some form or another, has just become a nightmare. The crosses at least stood out. Half the time now I end up selecting the wrong item in overview because it just all blends together in a column of triangles.

You wanna give ships the neat little chevron shapes, fine. I'm good with that. But other objects need to stand out. Wrecks and beacons are just horrible. Even the little circles for asteroid belts are arranged in you guessed it....a triangle pattern. The wrecks with the little dot in the middle that disappears once it's been looted, cute. Really, but just filling it in solid and have it turn into an outline made unlooted wrecks SOOOO much easier to see.

OH and fill in the sun so it's solid white again PLEASE. Trying to pick out that silly little sun icon amid all the gates and moons and planets is just ridiculous. The solid white stood out really nicely. No reason at all to change it.

i think this is a load on demand thingy. i noticed that my ships have no skins as well when i first activate them after the patch. but the little circle icon in the neocom starts spinning and a second later they have textures again.

@CCP_Surge - Reporting back after a few days of use, as instructed.

The new icons are still terrible. Can't begin to tell you how many times I have locked on to the wrong thing. At least 2 friends who are color blind are having an even worse time with them. I find myself using the "Name" and "Type" columns because the icons are just so..... bad.

So yeah. My opinion is unchanged. Please add a "Use Legacy Icons" button to general settings please.

After struggling with the new overview icons for three days, I have given up and tried the bandaid solution today, giving all PC ships a color background (based on standings, the same colour for all levels including no standings). This colour-coding does make it easier to mentally process the Type column with ship types (which is what I now have to do to obtain roughly the same information that used to be provided by the icons... it's a bit slower, but it more or less works - unlike the new overview icons, which I now pretty much ignore altogether.

Good thing I have been playing for more than two years... so I am, at least on a very basic level, able to process the textual information in the Type column, because the ship types do mean something to me (at least in most cases). I can't imagine what my workaround would be if I was a new player overwhelmed by the number of ship types appearing in the column.

Whats the record for number of replies?

Page 62 of replies, the number of those replies inching towards 1300 now. No notice of when that 'classic icon' choice will be available. That is more replies in less than a week on one thread dealing with a release, than came from Mosaic's 2 threads of feedback and bugs. Give me some time later, I'll figure out if one thread less than a week old has more replies when the release before Mosaic's 2 added to that count still leaves General Feedback Carnyx the cham-peen of thread-naughts for a release in the last 3-4 cycles.

Waiting for two things at this point before I do more during a login than update Industry jobs. One, the timeline for that option to become available. Two, some 'over 9000!' joke inserted by someone with better gif abilities than mine. Best I can offer, watch the Monty Python's Flying Circus 'Dead Parrot' skit and replace the word 'parrot' with 'new icons.' Surreal humor I have, software or app skills to make it happen, not so much.

>Jeven

Day three and still have not seen an improvement in my gameplay because of these new icons...please revert them and use the massive amount of feedback you have received through all the feedback threads you created specifically for new icon attempts to create something that makes sense and is fully functional. Not just flashy and shiney.

At this stage, i think CCP are going to try to save face (if thats even possible) and just mull on through with these new icons, because "its too late to change them all around now that they're out there"...thats my guess.

My reasons? Complete lack of implementing and ignoring any of the feedback from the near months worth from SiSi (minus "fixing" the pacman stargate). The fact their reaction to the massive amount of TQ feedback once it hit was of the "take a few days and get used to the 'mess'...". Not one mention of even a hint that something might be not agreeable with the new icons in the "this week in Eve" post. CCP themselves even called this a "minor icon swap" meaning they likely don't think it really needs much attention, since again, its a very minor change afterall.

All true.

Roll it back w the icons CCP.


KK

After a few days using the "new" icons set , i get used to use types column instead of the icons one good job

-Cruiser, battlecruiser and battleship need a new icons something more coolish
-Industrials are confusing as hell
-Drones don't need individual icons
-capsule need the eggs shape back and shuttles icon is terribad

-Warpgate ,npc wreck ,wreck,looted npc wreck,looted wreck,beacon,mobile depot need to go back to their original form or get something less weird.
-Containers, asteroids and ices don t need individual icons except maybe for freight container

the rest is okish to my taste.