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but it seems to be short a few icons ...

apparently this is the full list:

OMFG

I hate just bitching about things but the new icons were not a good change.
The simplicity of the icons before the change was the best thing about them. The bigger the "square" was, the larger the class ship it was. Some people might argue that giving each class ship its own icon would make it easier to identify the individual ship but the simplicity of the icons was the best feature.

Biggest example I can give is when your in a fleet fight. As everyone knows, when using the old icons, the bigger the "box" was the higher class ship it was. Frig- smallest box, Cap- biggest box. When using the icons as the filter on your overview it would put either the biggest box or smallest box at the top of your overview list, making it easier for an individual in small gang fleets to recognize what might be the enemies "tackle" (frig - small boxes) and what might be there "primary DPS" (battle ships - big boxes). With the new icons, we have lost the ability to do this because they don't fallow the same filter. This change of the filter also effects the ability of a solo player to identify "easy targets" (small boxes) when fighting larger numbers.

In this case, the simpler the icons were, the easier it makes it for the players. If they want to know exactly what the ship is, that is why there is an option to put the ship name on the overview list.

The old icons already did a good job of sorting the ships by hull size and class.

I would ask CCP to please bring back the old icons and the simplicity that they provided!!!

Sheesh, those icons.. I'm off to play something else while you fix this :)

The icons are not very user friendly or even well designed from a pure aesthetic viewpoint.
That´s two fails

HUD needs to go simple and user friendly.

Oh, I was not talking bad at you c: I just wanted to ask you to try the 90% and 110% and see if your eyes and screen still are at an impass or not. As with many things of this magnitude, multifaceted problems will happen for some, while others don't have them at all. This is a sum of the playstyle and customization choices as well as adaptability of the individual player. All I am saying is, that only catering to SOME parts was not a good idea, and that this could have been prevented.

Sadly, while the algorithm is the problem, chances of it being replaced is next to impossible. The only way to fix it for good is crafting the different icon sets by hand, which is not much of an issue as I mentioned before.
The thing is, the human eye uses different "hooks and anchors" the smaller something gets to distinguish it again. It is less about keeping exact proportions but more about keeping the "eyecatchers" distinguishable, while having them at a crisp appearance.



How about you pick someone with a bit more credibility? Like this gentleman? Who has written the following:



I would reckon he plays with 100% view, which probably has him not bothered of the scaling issue, but the icons nevertheless work for him, and he obviously is a pvp player who has things going for some time with success. Which means, there goes your argument, dear Lahnius.



How about you... change the link by cutting away the stuff at the end until it ends with .jpg ? Like... going from
http://images.contentful.com/kvd74o0q2fjg/4Hgu1BcYAE22wgokiKeYO4/4001f1c3132cc7749d9d25ec8851798e/NewOvervieBracket-IconsImage.jpg?w=1920&fm=jpg&q=85
to
http://images.contentful.com/kvd74o0q2fjg/4Hgu1BcYAE22wgokiKeYO4/4001f1c3132cc7749d9d25ec8851798e/NewOvervieBracket-IconsImage.jpg
That should fix the issue, right? c: But you'd rather be better off using the full version as posted already too.

Can I have your stuff?

Please can we have the old icons back, normally don't mind the changes but the new icon system is terrible

I think I figured out why the launcher is crashing .. it doesn't like the icons either and it's trying to protect our eyes.

I did not , and never said so, as I mentioned in my responses to him many pages back. And I have not missed this in his post, as mentioned back then.

But this does not change the fact that some people with some playstyles with existing customization options work out just as well as before. It was merely an example to show why some people can adjust easier than others, and that there are pvp players who manage to make it work for them, and another case how the system only works for a small amount of people.
The only reason I quoted him was to show that not all pvp players think it is bad, and why they don't think so.

This was not to justify the steps made to overhaul icons are good on ALL levels. But it is important to understand why things work for some players, in order to make improvements on the other fronts, and to understand what was basically done right, and what was not.

I'm still tinkering with the idea of how it would work out if we free up the icon space while we are at it, now that icons become more important. put targeting things to the left of it, targeted, being targeted and being attacked AND the colour tags to the right of it.
http://i.imgur.com/SKTXOdr.png

I spend some time with new icons. Getting use to them. Most of them are fine. I don't pvp so can't really tell from that perspective. I can't see any improvement in some of most used of them. Do we need change in warp gates icon? Beacons (what is this? volcano? sun over a mountain? sun god of the inca?) What was the purpose of stations and gates change? Just fill the old ones and "look at this new shiny icons"?

Whole story is like with undock button. Ppl will whine, nothing will change, beacons will stay commodore 64 like thing.
It's becoming a habit CCP, once per patch you introduce one tiny, unecessary, annoying change.