Ships & Modules

If you don't train Battleships, at least train the weapon systems. Oracle, Tornado, Naga and Talos are all fun boats, and can be really useful.

I'll just leave this here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4jQENEsbdk


Battleships rock the house, they simply require more than average skillpoints to fly and understand correctly. When to deploy them is the key.

So you want a ship that can kill small and big things with no drawbacks? So instead of frigate/cruisers online, it will become Battleships online because they have nothing to counter them.

Neuts, learn to use them. Whether big or small, a ship tends to not function when it has no cap.

Yes, drones do count. BS can hit smaller targets when you fit for it and know how to fly.

Thank you for explaining the magnitude of the situation. There is some truth here and I feel you are teaching/making good points.

We are talking over a year of SP progress. That is a ridiculous amount of time spent to fly a ship for it's limited use. While the support skills can translate into other ships, I don't think the amount of commitment is worth it. If I were to start in the game I would want some one to tell me that, for the amount of time it takes for the ship to be less of a liability, I would have to pay CCP $180 USD. And even then the ship is the least likely survive a gate camp which will happen if you take it into low/null sec. What is the reward from the risk of that hull? How does 1 year of skill training pay off? Where is the fun for my $180?

I feel like focusing on a smaller hull will make for a more fun year.

You're looking at the game all wrong. To get good at flying a BS you should go play eve for 2years and have a blast doing it. Do that in frigates, cruisers, BC you can even dable in mining.... whatever makes you happy. At the 2 year point get serious about the BS facet of the game and dive in prepared and ready to go. Don't mope around for 2 years because you weren't born as a BS ace.

I'm a good dread pilot and a good carrier pilot. Which one you might ask. All of them. Here's the thing. I didn't even think about training any capital ships until I crossed over 100million SP. I didn't think about sitting in a faction BS until I had both of the requisite racial BS trained to 5. Did I have to wait that long? Heck no. In my first year I lost 12 megas running L3 and L4 missions because I wasn't ready to be in one and did it anyhow. I learned the hard way to have patience. When I finally got smart I flew assault frigates and cruisers and had a blast. Once I was ready I got into bigger things, but I didn't mope around complaining - I went out there in what I could fly well and had a super time.

EVE isn't about being able to fly a BS. EVE is about going out there meating a few dudes online, hanging w/ the ones you get along with and BLOWINGSHITUP. Don't get frustrated. Go do something else that is fun and in the background keep an eye on the bigger ships. When you're ready stop having on kind of fun and begin another. Slow and steady and laugh about all of it.
Right now my favorite ship for what I'm doing is the orthrus. I've never liked to fly capital ships and only do that when necessary. My all time favorite ship is the enyo. I flew the crap out of those things way before AF got some love and became cool.

You didnt really read the post properly, just instantly started slinging standard replies

I just find it funny that t1 frigate can kill a battleship alone, the size difference alone should mean that the small guy cannot do so much.
Also i know the "basics" of EVE so no need to play the broken record.

He totally skipped the part where i mentioned that all ships need support skills, not only battleships.
He also instantly assumed that i would like to get some supership, which wasnt the case.
No idea how he pulled the no drawbacks bit from mentioning small guns, they already made rapid heavies so guns may or may not be coming sometime.
I shouldnt expect sensible replies though, the HTFU crowd is too overwhelming anyway (and since my killboard is pretty much empty, i know nothing about anything).
Fly safe, or dangerously, just have fun.

They do have defense against smaller ships. Do you need me to repeat what they are again? You don't need a bonused weapon system to be effective.

Drones are all you need to kill a frigate, not sure why you keep dismissing them. Neuts can also be used. Lower tier guns can be used to great effect when combined with webs and/or tracking mods. Not to mention there is nothing stopping you from putting med or small guns on your ship.

If we are not talking about frigates, a properly flown ship can easily hit cruisers and BCs with large guns. I'm not trying hard, I am giving you solutions, if you choose to ignore them that is your choice.