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Kaarous Aldurald

Black Hydra Consortium.

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#21 - 2015-05-04 12:57:29 UTC

Gorski Car wrote:

Nice to see that t2 mwds are actually faster now. But really do we need more speed creep in eve? it feels like ships are super fast right now and that creates some problems in my opinion. In a vacum they might be okish whats most important is what you guys are planning to do with links since they heavily affect this as well. For certain ships these changes might be terrifying though. Garmurs doing 10k m/s or stilettos burning 100km and tackeling you before you can lock them.

This is very much a concern of mine. With the release of T3 destroyers, we're already treading perilously close to the age of nanos, which is bad.

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Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Tactical-Retreat Likes received: 2,124	#22 - 2015-05-04 12:58:12 UTC Yeah, with a server ticking at 1Hz, and blaster ships being able to cover their whole falloff + optimal + optimal + falloff (approaching then overshooting the target) in less than one second, it is quite ridiculous to see speed increase even more. Signature Tanking Best Tanking [Ex-F] CEO - Eve-guides.fr Ultimate Citadel Guide - 2016 EVE Career Chart

l0rd carlos

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#23 - 2015-05-04 13:00:15 UTC

Aivlis Eldelbar wrote:

Quote:

Q: Why have you changed the MWDs to 5/50/500MN?
A: We want show there is a clear increase in power between Afterburners and Microwarpdrives. It also makes searching the market a little easier.

This is going to get very annoying, very fast. You are making people type in two different strings each time they search for a prop mod in EFT or the market. 1 for frigs, 10 for cruisers, 100 for battleships, please keep it that way.

How often do you need to fit dual prob in EFT or the market?
Or how about we make scram and web the same name so you only have to search a single time for that?

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I don't like the speed creep, might be interesting when we remove fleet boosters.

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Iroquoiss Pliskin

9B30FF Labs

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#24 - 2015-05-04 13:05:06 UTC

CCP Larrikin wrote:

Hello Dudetters and Duders,

We would love some feedback from the community about the proposed Module Tiericide Afterburner and Microwarpdrive changes. Please give us your feedback!

Goals of Module Tiericide

Reduce unnecessary complexity
Provide meaningful options within the module set

Changes

Give a speed bonus to higher meta Microwarpdrives

What's this. Shocked

Reasonable and much needed changes in my Eve. Shocked

Quote:

Q: Why have you changed the MWDs to 5/50/500MN?
A: We want show there is a clear increase in power between Afterburners and Microwarpdrives. It also makes searching the market a little easier.

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Harvey James

The Sengoku Legacy

Likes received: 1,267

#25 - 2015-05-04 13:08:28 UTC

it would be nicer too see AB's get a speed boost rather than mwd's, AB's need some help (nerfing webs would be nice her too)

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using

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Bleedingthrough Likes received: 209	#26 - 2015-05-04 13:15:26 UTC \| Edited by: Bleedingthrough The absolute changes on speed for MDWs (103.6% for meta 14 compared to t1) seem a bit too low to make a meaningful difference. Why not go up to 600% total speedbonus?

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Malakai Asamov Van Diemen's Demise Northern Coalition. Likes received: 39	#27 - 2015-05-04 13:16:45 UTC 2 Was this post put through dislyixisia QA?

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Inggroth Harbingers of Reset Likes received: 49	#28 - 2015-05-04 13:20:50 UTC 2 Making t2 MWDs better than t1 is p. cool and logical. Naming i dont care, although how would anybody think that this is removing complexity? Speed creep is not cool, please have another look. I'd nerf speeds slightly to be honest.

Charlie Nonoke

Blue Republic

RvB - BLUE Republic

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#29 - 2015-05-04 13:21:00 UTC

The 5, 50, 500 I think is unnecessary.
If 1MN of MWD is roughly 5x speed of a 1MN AB.
Then naming it 5MN MWD means many many times more than a 1MN AB.

Having AB or MWD as a suffix is enough to distinguish the two.

Having 5, 50, 500 MN only makes sense, if you name it:
1MN AB and 5MN AB
10MN AB and 50MN AB
100MN AB and 500MN AB

The MWD technically is an afterburner afterall.

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Lloyd Roses Artificial Memories Likes received: 1,356	#30 - 2015-05-04 13:25:31 UTC nother thing bugging me: For ABs, Gist ones are faster and require more cap. For mwds, gist ones though require less cap, are equally fast and have a bigger sigbloom. Is that intended or type? Because it doesn't make much sense that the coreli one is better suited for sigtanking compared to an angel mod.

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Koz Katral Collapsed Out Pandemic Legion Likes received: 151	#31 - 2015-05-04 13:25:46 UTC 11 Are you nerds really whining about the flavor names being to much, after last time when they took them out completely and everyone cried tears of blood? If I worked for CCP I would probably have pictures of players on my wall and throw darts at them.

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SpaceSaft Almost Dangerous Wolves Amongst Strangers Likes received: 177	#32 - 2015-05-04 13:26:54 UTC 1 I too like the 1mn mwd to 5mn mwd change. I don't like much else about the naming though. Looks like obfuscating, nonhelpful fluff to me. Could you try saying those names 5 times from memory without messing something up or forgetting words? Because I don't think you can.

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epicurus ataraxia Illusion of Solitude. Illusion of Solitude Likes received: 1,840	#33 - 2015-05-04 13:27:49 UTC 3 I am a little concerned that the republic fleet afterburners, that were chosen by players for reduced cap use, have had that feature removed. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE


Iroquoiss Pliskin 9B30FF Labs Likes received: 783	#34 - 2015-05-04 13:28:46 UTC Sweet, sweet Cold-Gas. I think the 2% difference between Deadspace C/B/A versions is not large enough. // [PvP Damage Done by Class (Scylla)] // [Cruisers Online]


Harvey James The Sengoku Legacy Likes received: 1,267	#35 - 2015-05-04 13:30:18 UTC shouldnt T2 AB/mwd require higher CPU and PG?? rather than just PG especially as the compact reduces both stats.. T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using

Iroquoiss Pliskin

9B30FF Labs

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#36 - 2015-05-04 13:30:50 UTC | Edited by: Iroquoiss Pliskin

Lloyd Roses wrote:

nother thing bugging me:

For ABs, Gist ones are faster and require more cap. For mwds, gist ones though require less cap, are equally fast and have a bigger sigbloom. Is that intended or type? Because it doesn't make much sense that the coreli one is better suited for sigtanking compared to an angel mod.

This.

CCP please give Gistii lesser sig penalty, while differentiating Corelis with more raw % speed in return.

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