EVE General Discussion

They should just make every line of code in the game optional so we'll never have this 'can it be optional!' whining again.

Yeah you're right.

Keep making EvE boring I really enjoy it when peak player count has sagged to 2007 levels.

I won't argue against the apparent lack of common sense when it comes to monetization and tiering, but much like everything else "grunge" is subjective. Personally I'd love for a select few of my hulls to show their age in some manner. It helps both immersively and aesthetically and, in my mind at least, doesn't in any way counter the idea of customizing colors or logos. Rather it's just another aspect to owning and individualizing a ship.

Also, don't we have an entire race with a meme built around this concept? The FF presentation literally saw applause at the announcement of the return of "rust."

What? I just asked if an idea presented at FF was still being considered and pointed out that yeah, some of us might like to see that become a reality in some form.

I'm not suggesting it be mandatory or a default state, but rather, like other forms of customization, an option. I get that not everyone likes it, but the same can be said for scars in the character creator. Not everyone has or wants them, but for those that do they are there.

I guess I'm not people... :(

Pricing frigate SKINs so high is obnoxious because makes it look like you're a bunch of greedheads trying to cash in on the enthusiasm of new players who don't realize how soon they'll be outgrowing their frigates. Granted, I think most SKINs are too expensive - especially since so many of the SKINS on offer are for ships that most players only fly until they can fly bigger/better - but offering frigate SKINs at such a high price is a clear violation of the Wheaton's Law. Did you learn nothing after the monocles? How do you keep making this kind of mistake with the NES? Is this in service of some desire for some items to be more exclusive? If so, I'm sure others have already pointed out that this is incredibly wrong-headed. SKINs and clothing should be exclusive after they're no longer obtainable via CCP. Trying to engineer false exclusivity with your pricing is bad for lots of reasons that others have already touched upon.

I'd also like to add my vote to the "lore is a dumb reason to restrict ship SKINs" lobby. By all means, kit out the race/faction specific SKINS first; but sooner or later, you're going to have all of those in game. If capsuleers are free to mix and match everything else about our ships, why wouldn't we also have that same freedom with our paint jobs? Ideally, we would get to customize our ship's color scheme, but I recognize that implementing that in the current framework would be impossible.

Finally, YES, T2 ships must have SKINs. I know, I know, T2 ships already have faction-specific paint jobs and that was great when that was the only way to get a different looking SKIN Well, I've been looking at the same hull colors (with admittedly-impressive graphics upgrades) for about decade now. Nobody's zooming into to see what kind of ship I'm flying. The only people who are going to gaze admiringly at my ships are me and the very occasional passer-by. If visual distinctiveness matters that much to you, add more physical geegaws to the models like you've already done with many T2 ships.

Haven't been this excited for downtime since... can't remember.

Yeah, that's a good point, the grunge makes sense on Minmatar. Maybe a cute, "We're sorry, washing would be ineffective." rejection message for attempted Minmatar wash jobs.