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CCP - End Highsec Incursions

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Aquilan Aideron
Wardecs go here
#1381 - 2015-11-25 18:51:06 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Aquilan Aideron wrote:
My bad for responding to the forum troll.


You could clarify WTF you meant instead of calling others trolls...

I experienced the event, but did not partcipate. What part needs clarcification in the mind of a Goon?
Aquilan Aideron
Wardecs go here
#1382 - 2015-11-25 18:51:54 UTC
Delete please
Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#1383 - 2015-11-25 19:20:34 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Aquilan Aideron wrote:
My bad for responding to the forum troll.


You could clarify WTF you meant instead of calling others trolls...


Unless of course, he's a troll.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#1384 - 2015-11-25 19:39:33 UTC
Don't worry guys, I got this

Aquilan Aideron wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Aquilan Aideron wrote:
My bad for responding to the forum troll.
You could clarify WTF you meant instead of calling others trolls...
I experienced the event, but did not partcipate. What part needs clarcification in the mind of a Goon?
The problem is that you don't seem to know what "firsthand" means.

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Aquilan Aideron
Wardecs go here
#1385 - 2015-11-25 19:56:05 UTC
Indeed.

Looking forward to the next ingenious nurf HS Concord/mission/miner/npc corp thread.

Love
Vic Jefferson
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#1386 - 2015-11-25 20:43:18 UTC
Nick Bete wrote:
Lord in Heaven why is this stupid ass thread still going?

You null bigots are pissed off that high sec is more than a noob training area and that (GASP!) many people actually like the low stress playstyle in high and are able to generate enough in-game money to pay for their accounts. Guess what? Deal with it. CCP's not listening to you and is not stupid enough to make game design or business decisions based on your forum whines.

These moronic "nerf high sec" threads filled with opinions and agendas dressed up as facts have been going on for as long as I've been in the game. Thankfully CCP isn't populated by numbskulls who demand that everything they don't personally like be nerfed.


Yes.

I find it hilariously tilted that income is higher, safer, and more accessible in high sec than it is in null or low. How are people supposed to be struggling for things in a dystopian, might makes right sandbox when they are basically handed it all in High Sec?

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Urziel99
Multiplex Gaming
Tactical Narcotics Team
#1387 - 2015-11-26 02:41:38 UTC
Vic Jefferson wrote:
Nick Bete wrote:
Lord in Heaven why is this stupid ass thread still going?

You null bigots are pissed off that high sec is more than a noob training area and that (GASP!) many people actually like the low stress playstyle in high and are able to generate enough in-game money to pay for their accounts. Guess what? Deal with it. CCP's not listening to you and is not stupid enough to make game design or business decisions based on your forum whines.

These moronic "nerf high sec" threads filled with opinions and agendas dressed up as facts have been going on for as long as I've been in the game. Thankfully CCP isn't populated by numbskulls who demand that everything they don't personally like be nerfed.


Yes.

I find it hilariously tilted that income is higher, safer, and more accessible in high sec than it is in null or low. How are people supposed to be struggling for things in a dystopian, might makes right sandbox when they are basically handed it all in High Sec?


And I find it hilarious that instead of campaigning to make their own areas better, bitter and self-interested posters insist on crapping in someone else's cheerios.

Look to your own problems if the money isn't in lawless space.

But it's not about the money is it? It's about the needs of some people to make targets out of others for no other reason then their own gratification.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1388 - 2015-11-26 04:01:00 UTC
Urziel99 wrote:

And I find it hilarious that instead of campaigning to make their own areas better, bitter and self-interested posters insist on crapping in someone else's cheerios.


Because increasing everyone else's income, as opposed to just lowering the biggest offender, not only causes massive inflation, but also severely devalues the relative earning power of new players.

You might want to **** all over new players just to keep your risk free fountain of income, but it's not going to happen that way.

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But it's not about the money is it? It's about the needs of some people to make targets out of others for no other reason then their own gratification.


Waah. Cry more, carebear. Your days of suckling the golden teat are numbered. CCP can't ignore it forever, and it's frankly a miracle that incursions still exist at all given how broken they are.

If you want more reward, you should have to accept more risk. If you won't, you should have second class income.

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#1389 - 2015-11-26 05:00:57 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


Because increasing everyone else's income, as opposed to just lowering the biggest offender, not only causes massive inflation, but also severely devalues the relative earning power of new players.

You might want to **** all over new players just to keep your risk free fountain of income, but it's not going to happen that way.


Well said. isn't it amazing how high sec posters are all "think of the children" until the children start tugging at their wallets lol.

This is why Null doesn't need more isk. It would be selfish as all hell to say "pour more isk into my personal wallet" which is what a null buff would do. The selfish person thinks everyone is as selfish as them, and they can't understand when someone has a concern about something they actually participate in (lke how some of us who run incursions are honest enough to say "hey, this is a bit too good").
Vic Jefferson
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#1390 - 2015-11-26 05:51:49 UTC
Urziel99 wrote:
Look to your own problems if the money isn't in lawless space.


I don't know how many times I have repeatedly pointed out that Syndicate is one of the most violent regions in the game (by the latest dev blog, 0.5T) but one of the poorest (0.18T).

I don't know how many times I have advocated and expressed the issues of the residents of Syndicate; they are dependent on alts and earning money in other areas, because NPC nullsec grossly under supports its players and its play style. Having to have alts and spend most of your time outside of the region you live in is bad for the game overall and asphyxiates local content.

This also hamstrings small and new groups, as they have no way to grow.

It's been done. To death. New Eden is an organic system and everything is interrelated, and relative to each other. Even if they buffed NPC null up to the levels of income attainable in HiSec, it would still be insufficient, relatively speaking, as you would still be better off doing it in Hi Sec.

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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1391 - 2015-11-26 06:05:39 UTC
Funny that people get upset when the cash cow is going to die. Its about time. No risk no reward or at least 90% lower reward. And farming the side and leave the mother ship alive is just plain nonsense.

Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#1392 - 2015-11-26 06:26:54 UTC
How about allowing Covert Cynos to be lit in HS Incursion Systems?

That could be fun.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1393 - 2015-11-26 09:07:10 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
How about allowing Covert Cynos to be lit in HS Incursion Systems?

That could be fun.


What are the blops going to do once they drop?, concord will still happyslap them with nukes.
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#1394 - 2015-11-26 09:10:51 UTC
This thread has gone from remove hi-sec incursions into nerfing all hi-sec income into the ground.

It's an all nullbear crybabies rantfest now and should be locked down.

Reporting this garbage thread for ranting!!
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#1395 - 2015-11-26 09:12:47 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
How about allowing Covert Cynos to be lit in HS Incursion Systems?

That could be fun.


what are blops going to do against an incursion fleet?

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Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#1396 - 2015-11-26 09:33:10 UTC
Daniela Doran wrote:
This thread has gone from remove hi-sec incursions into nerfing all hi-sec income into the ground.

It's an all nullbear crybabies rantfest now and should be locked down.

Reporting this garbage thread for ranting!!


I don't know what you mean, the discussion has been focused around incursions this whole time. It's very difficult to argue against a brick wall, not that you are a brick wall but others in this thread are in so much denial it's almost funny. I don't know if they realise that the income we're talking about is completely imaginary. It's tough not to rant when you're saying the same things again and again and people just say "but muh isk".

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Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#1397 - 2015-11-26 09:46:33 UTC
Mr Mieyli wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
This thread has gone from remove hi-sec incursions into nerfing all hi-sec income into the ground.

It's an all nullbear crybabies rantfest now and should be locked down.

Reporting this garbage thread for ranting!!


I don't know what you mean, the discussion has been focused around incursions this whole time. It's very difficult to argue against a brick wall, not that you are a brick wall but others in this thread are in so much denial it's almost funny. I don't know if they realise that the income we're talking about is completely imaginary. It's tough not to rant when you're saying the same things again and again and people just say "but muh isk".


I was actually referring to Jenn since she is the source of all the ranting! All her posts should be deleted!!
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#1398 - 2015-11-26 09:49:22 UTC
Daniela Doran wrote:
Mr Mieyli wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
This thread has gone from remove hi-sec incursions into nerfing all hi-sec income into the ground.

It's an all nullbear crybabies rantfest now and should be locked down.

Reporting this garbage thread for ranting!!


I don't know what you mean, the discussion has been focused around incursions this whole time. It's very difficult to argue against a brick wall, not that you are a brick wall but others in this thread are in so much denial it's almost funny. I don't know if they realise that the income we're talking about is completely imaginary. It's tough not to rant when you're saying the same things again and again and people just say "but muh isk".


I was actually referring to Jenn since she is the source of all the ranting! All her posts should be deleted!!


atleast its constructive unlike your own posts

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Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#1399 - 2015-11-26 13:24:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniela Doran
Lan Wang wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
Mr Mieyli wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
This thread has gone from remove hi-sec incursions into nerfing all hi-sec income into the ground.

It's an all nullbear crybabies rantfest now and should be locked down.

Reporting this garbage thread for ranting!!


I don't know what you mean, the discussion has been focused around incursions this whole time. It's very difficult to argue against a brick wall, not that you are a brick wall but others in this thread are in so much denial it's almost funny. I don't know if they realise that the income we're talking about is completely imaginary. It's tough not to rant when you're saying the same things again and again and people just say "but muh isk".


I was actually referring to Jenn since she is the source of all the ranting! All her posts should be deleted!!


atleast its constructive unlike your own posts


You are correct......because I'm not a ranter.

There is no such thing as a constructive post in a rant thread.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#1400 - 2015-11-26 13:40:15 UTC
Daniela Doran wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
Mr Mieyli wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
This thread has gone from remove hi-sec incursions into nerfing all hi-sec income into the ground.

It's an all nullbear crybabies rantfest now and should be locked down.

Reporting this garbage thread for ranting!!


I don't know what you mean, the discussion has been focused around incursions this whole time. It's very difficult to argue against a brick wall, not that you are a brick wall but others in this thread are in so much denial it's almost funny. I don't know if they realise that the income we're talking about is completely imaginary. It's tough not to rant when you're saying the same things again and again and people just say "but muh isk".


I was actually referring to Jenn since she is the source of all the ranting! All her posts should be deleted!!


atleast its constructive unlike your own posts


You are correct......because I'm not a ranter.

There is no such thing as a constructive post in a rant thread.


Highlighted your own rant for ya ok

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*