Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hello everyone. We are updating Singularity as we speak with the first testing versions of our Scylla release coming immediately after Fanfest.

If you've been watching CCP Rise's tweets, you already know that we have some important balance changes in the works and that more info will be coming this week.

I'm making threads right now for two of the sets of changes coming in Scylla, and for details of the rest you should watch the o7 show tonight at 20:00 EVE Time and keep your eyes peeled for a Dev Blog that will drop in the coming days. I'm making threads for this subset of the planned changes today because these are the ones that are already running in today's SISI update.

There are a number of balance issues that are being looked at surrounding Sentry Drones and the ships that use them, and more info on that will be revealed later. However one smaller tweak that I can announce now is that we are shifting some of the base optimal range on Bouncer sentry drones over to falloff.

The change removes 5km of base optimal for T1 Bouncers (6km for T2 and Navy) and adds the same value to falloff.

These are not the only balance changes coming in Scylla. All the details on those changes will be released in an upcoming dev blog.

Hmm, interesting.

Good change.

if it were me I'd do something like -40% or -50% optimal and falloff reduction on all sentry drones, or just remove them.

Better to have multiple smaller changes that nail the issue completely (in the end) than one single massive change that completely ruins it.

Paging Dinsdale

i would hope some dps nerfs are incoming??

This is perfect the problem with Ishtar is the Drone Control range and Targeting range. With this Sentry drone change if you also:

* Remove Ishtars drone control range bonus
* Reduce Ishtars base targeting range by 7.5km
* Reduce Ishtars CPU by 25

We get perfectly balanced Ishtar. DPS is really not the problem with Ishtars since you can easily just add more ships. Anyhow with these changes Ishtar is still viable at current ranges but they have to sacrifice that for a big hole in their tank.

And if they want to retain tank they have to fight at closer ranges which means doctrines like Legions, Lokis, Zealots, Absos, ANR and even BS doctrines can take them on and then the skill falls onto the FC's and fleet members.

Just make EWAR that hits a ship, affect that ship's drones.

Tracking Disruption
Sensor Dampening
ECM

Why is it that I can EWAR an Ishtar, but that Ishtar continues to provide bonuses to it's drones from it's fitted modules?

At the very least, make it so that certain EWAR affects the bonuses provided by Drone Upgrade modules.

EWAR is an already in-game counter weapon. Instead of nerfing ships and drones, give us the ability to use already in-game tools so that we can counter them ourselves.

This changes will not change anything really. The problem of centry drones is in tracking.
But not only the sentry drones is the problem. All Gallente droneboats is the most preferable ships in their class: Tristan. Algos, Vexor, Navy Vexor, Ishtar. Main reasons:
- can use any tank: shield, armor, hull;
- kite effectively or use thick tank;
- great possibilities for fitting
- any damage type
- best E-war protection

I have some thoughts what to do with them.
1. Restrict ship bonuses by thermal damage type. They can still use any drones they want but much less effective.
2. Devide ship doubled drones bonuses. For example: ships can have 10% to drones damage OR to drones HP; bonus 7,5% to drones max velocity or to tracking speed. Like all other ships have.